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Re: The Saxon Immigration Debate

Christ - I'm still trying to work out why s/he would even bother to regurgitate it all courtesy of cut and paste - rather than actually applying something to answering the points. Which is maybe THE point - to avoid answering it by deflecting it out of the original context. Tricky dodge Apologies fo...
by The Cellar Bar
on Mon May 28, 2012 11:35 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Saxon Immigration Debate
Replies: 5
Views: 11143

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

What I would suggest is that if you don't want to be vexed by the process of having to read another's contribution against your thesis, then the best advice would be not to introduce the tendentious bullshit in the first place. Don't come running here with complaints of being hauled through the anna...
by The Cellar Bar
on Sat May 26, 2012 12:50 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

OK - so let's have a go at the rest of this - and I'll type slowly for (hopefull) ease of comprehension ..... 1) Which is more arrogant, me distinguishing cultures by their relative achievements or you lumping them together as "invaders"? Simple answer - you for presuming that you can spea...
by The Cellar Bar
on Fri May 25, 2012 4:34 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

How can you not be proficient enough to google "reductio ad hitlerum" or guess what it means from the Latin? if anything were required to devine just what sort of background you are dribbling out from....that sure as hell nails it with a vengeance. What I said was that I have no notion - ...
by The Cellar Bar
on Fri May 25, 2012 3:41 am
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

Just to remind you of what you wrote Hennessey, this is a taste of it Jesus sometimes with you guys I feel like we're a bunch of Romano-British standing on a hill watching the first cohorts of Saxons tie up their boats. I'm sure one of you would say, "it's alright guys, they may be dressed in r...
by The Cellar Bar
on Sun May 20, 2012 12:47 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

Put more simply in order for you to understand then my friend - 1) you are living in some sort of partially educated dream world where you believe against all the odds that somehow you are "British" but are incapable of showing any historic background or fact to such a "claim". T...
by The Cellar Bar
on Sun May 20, 2012 3:56 am
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

The religions I don't have any problem with RedCelt. Any religion, any form of belief that is there as an indicator, a referral point as to how to live in a society is a bonus for me. At least the basic principles are set down and can be debated and discussed. And despite "our" European ex...
by The Cellar Bar
on Wed May 16, 2012 2:37 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

I'm not sure, macgamer, why the sarcasm needs to roll in yet again and have Hasan described as "the darling of the left" To be honest, I know he ain't my darling of the left - whatever that means, or used to mean in the days when it maybe meant something. I think it's an attempted as a for...
by The Cellar Bar
on Wed May 16, 2012 1:44 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

Except I wasn't talking about race I was talking about culture. aye - we know that!!! So were we!!! The only disappontment is that after having it painstakingly explained to you, you still seem to have overlooked the basic screaming fact that this "Roman culture" to which you adhere 1) em...
by The Cellar Bar
on Wed May 16, 2012 2:26 am
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

aye I know RedCelt :) - but I reserve the right to "minor" distortion for the sake of a debating point :) Once the dander is up, it's kinda hard to dampen the flame!! And yup - if nothing else, what the "Roman" experience highlights is the magnificence of the "cosmopolitan&q...
by The Cellar Bar
on Mon May 14, 2012 12:25 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

......... and "tosh"? Tosh?! Jesus man - the last time I saw that word used with any seriousness was in a PG Wodehouse story. And even then, getting on for a hundred years ago now (no honestly!!) - even Bertie Wooster came across as being more amenable to the existence of "tinted chep...
by The Cellar Bar
on Mon May 14, 2012 1:01 am
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

Paedophilia has been going on for a while so we shouldn't bother finding out the root cause of quite a few of the cases, even when the attacks have a definite modus operandi and are systematic within one community? no - what some of us are suggesting is that it's virtually impossible - and very def...
by The Cellar Bar
on Mon May 14, 2012 12:00 am
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

Just thinking there too, that given that a sizeable proportion of the population of Pakistan and of Pakistani people here are actually Christian, and that the "reservation" seems to be against Pakistani Muslims, would it not be an idea that we ensured we weren't making an awful mistake and...
by The Cellar Bar
on Sat May 12, 2012 1:15 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: The Muslim Immigration Debate

aye - I read the comments on the Guardian page as well - the last comment of This bit of troll bait was waiting at the gates for the results of the trial... just about sums up what you have done. And like an idiot I've fallen for it! So what are you saying? As some there have been astute to try and ...
by The Cellar Bar
on Fri May 11, 2012 1:40 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: The Muslim Immigration Debate
Replies: 66
Views: 40962

Re: Eco-Luddites Strike Again!

I take the point(s) - but part of the problem is that while it might have been possible a dose of decades ago to argue that science's responsibility or remit is the furthering of knowledge and that it can't be held responsible for the social or other effects of those discoveries, the situation has c...
by The Cellar Bar
on Tue May 08, 2012 1:42 am
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: Eco-Luddites Strike Again!
Replies: 9
Views: 9778

Re: Eco-Luddites Strike Again!

Don't remember anyone describing it as "Frankenstein food" to be honest. What I do remember were the concerns of irradiated foodstuffs for instance. And then the last of those tests, pressed for and supported by Sainsbury in his capacity as a food producer and government advisor. Talk of p...
by The Cellar Bar
on Mon May 07, 2012 9:35 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: Eco-Luddites Strike Again!
Replies: 9
Views: 9778

Re: Eco-Luddites Strike Again!

hey macgamer - doing OK? And yes - I'd be the first to admit that some of the behaviour of those purporting to represent an otherwise laudable argument/campaign, have been waaay beyond the pale. But that still doesn't or shouldn't detract from the overall character of the debat worldwide or national...
by The Cellar Bar
on Sat May 05, 2012 1:47 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: Eco-Luddites Strike Again!
Replies: 9
Views: 9778

Re: Eco-Luddites Strike Again!

the crazed anti-science eco-Luddites shriek 'contamination!' ....... there is essentially a problem with contamination. Although few protestors "shriek" so far as I know - that sounds more like an effort to demean them by hinting at "girly" characteristics.....and by what right ...
by The Cellar Bar
on Thu May 03, 2012 12:57 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: Eco-Luddites Strike Again!
Replies: 9
Views: 9778

Re: I think a few IR professors need to live in the real wor

Same goes for me - kinda difficult to comment on an article that isn't available to read. And therefore depending overall on the perceptions of one person with an agenda to be convinced that the author of the critique deserves to be lambasted for apparently "lacking a funny-bone" - "P...
by The Cellar Bar
on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:47 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: I think a few IR professors need to live in the real world..
Replies: 9
Views: 9099

Re: Gay AND Catholic?

And if you're infertile, does that mean you get to have sex all the time? I reckon that opens up a whole can of worms for a fertile (sorry) imagination that is so inclined. If you're infertile, the next question, if you are inclined, is to wonder whether there is any purpose to the marriage in the ...
by The Cellar Bar
on Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:20 pm
 
Forum: The Sinner's Main Board
Topic: Gay AND Catholic?
Replies: 88
Views: 48949
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