by phil on Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:21 pm
was trying to just finish this as i suspect were boring people,and no one but us is bothering to read this, (and nic who is forced to before she puts my posts on, but if you insist...
Ok, quickly, as I don't want to waste my time with you, I will run through your either idiotic or plain stupid parts of your post which annoyed me.
1. by the time they get to the door to be turned away it is to late for people to see the rules. there should be no large posters on the window as it blocks vision from inside, (check that one with a porter before you shoot your mouth off), and the rules are, or at least were, on the pillar next to the porters desk already, so any notice would need to be outside
2. already answered above
3. paint looks very bad when repainted frequently - clubs generally don't repaint, they varnish floors and refurbish every 3-5 years
4. already answered. on what i did with my time in office i refer you to my agm report
5. you agree with me
6. i don't think the union giving away large amounts of free drink is a good idea, if anything because it contravenes the 2003 licensing act guidelines. the brewer deals come up when they have promotional spend available, and our bar manager is as good as any at getting them
7. if the porters box was a large glass and pine reception area would the union be more professional? if the venue entry had a ticket booth would it be more professional? professionality is such a subjective and personal term that the point of this debate alone could go on forever.
already answered the price on drinks. if you want the price to go down you lose promotional spend
if beatons exists as welfare for students then it needs to be cheapest in st andrews, which it cannot be. if it is not for welfare the price and menu is set by demand and production costs. also the ingredients are to some extent governed by northern services, our buying consortium
answered the maccy ds point. also probably very few of the 20% of american children you mentioned attend st andrews
£13000 might get more than 1 manager, but not a club manager, a bar manager, a bar deputy manager, a non commercial services manager, a full time welfare representative and a building supervisor, all of which positions will still be required whoever is manager
if they were close to the union wall (2 metres or less from the overhang) they would cover very little space, look a bit crap and require other lighting for basic safety standards, which would then swamp them. decent projectors covering a substantial part of the building with images bright enough to be impressive will cost rather more than £3000
you can always find something to do, a project to take on or work to undertake in the union. how many of the points you've raised here have you taken to SSC exactly?
with all the options available to them i think for 1/4 of the possible customers coming into the union once a week isn't too shabby
the ssc can mandate any of its officers to do anything relating to the union. as is say it is up to you to define your role. however if you see doing a certain amount is more than your fair share you really arent fit to be a represntative of the members of a chairty
no, i'm not being sarcastic simply pointing out that if there is more enthusiasm amongst union officials this rubs off.
no substantial money was spent between 1999 and 2003. all of the lighting bought is in one of the rigs and programmed into the controlling desks. if some are not functioning it may be awaiting repair, but the somewhat crowded events program, with venue 1 constantly in use this term means people are struggling for time to do it.
the turnover is over 400 000 surplusses after all costs over 150 000. check the figures.
why have i not done my research? this accusation confuses me? do operate on the logic that if you say it is is true? have you been appointed god and no one told me?
I take it your response means you don't know how much the union spends on maintenance then, and work in afternoons has to be minor and non disruptive, not scrubbing floors in the bar and repainting walls in public areas
i think your arguments all rest on your 'i say' logic, or on the notion that you shouldn't have to do any work as an elected offical unless your paid.
all the sabs i have ever worked with were always trying to do their best for the union, going well beyond what you would consider fair work for £12 000 or so. i think your suggestion that they have done nothing is highly insulting, and the union has changed dramatically since 1998. for it to improve further it needs the support of all its officials, people committed to driving the association forward. you, i think its fair to say, do not fall into this category.
now unless you have something constructive to say please stop posting