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Postby MadDog20/20 on Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:28 pm

[s]Rilla wrote on 16:13, 11th Dec 2004:
No! Little Miss Giggles, I know MadDog, and he has it all entirely wrong! He has so many issues as regards women I do not understand it.



For your information I have not been rejected for a long time. I am just very observant and have noticed that women are full of crap.

Apparently I can get girls - whatever that's not the point here.

The point is that this female fascination with confidence is COMPLETELY PATHETIC. I can turn it on when I need it but what if I couldn't? I'd have to become rich or famous or I'd never get laid at all.

Women are fucking retarded. What's wrong with being a chilled out dude?

And don't get me started on women who don't like to date guys who are younger than them. What the hell is that about?
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Postby novium on Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:28 pm

[s]MadDog20/20 wrote on 15:23, 11th Dec 2004:
The reason women are evil is they only come in two flavours, both of which are inherantly fucked up.

The first kind is the girl who gets loads of guys and is probably hot and therefore vain. She usually lines up her next boyfriend before she finishes with the one she already has. Quite often she may have several poor suckers on the go in different places at the same time. This is why really hot chicks never seem to be single, if you are lucky you might get in there with good timing, but sooner or later you will be replaced too.

The second is the girl who has trouble getting guys (for whatever reason) and sits around all day reading Jane Austin and watching Sarah Jessica Parker. These girls piss about waiting for Colin Firth to come and rescue them and should be avoided like the plague. They can usually be spotted in Costa filling in their journal. When you date them its an entirely one way relationship as they suck you in so that they can rebuild their self esteem. Unless you are starting a career as a shrink and need experience dating these women is unlikely to bring anything positive to your life.

The whole mess is compounded by the fact that all women under the age of 30 are completely won over by confidence and charisma. The only reasons I can think of why this appeals to them are a) their own miserable lack of self esteem b) the deep-rooted female instinct of selecting a mate who is best likely to provide for them.

Fuckin gold-diggers the lot of them.


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Postby MadDog20/20 on Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:48 pm

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Someone's been burned....
Avoid generalizations when talking about half the population of the world. You're bound to make an ass of yourself.
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Ha ha actually no I havent. But loads of my mates have and I have just become increasingly frustrated with the peculiar and irrational choices women make when it comes to picking men.
I listen to feminists and all these radical gals - most of them are failures. They've blown it. Some of them have been married, but they married some Casper Milquetoast who asked permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men - that's their problem. ~Jerry Falwell
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Postby theflirt on Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:59 pm

wow-Maddog, thats really quite harsh....something must have happened to say that

Not all woman are like that, just like all men r not undecisive and complicated. Of course there are some who line up men after men, there are some who will never have interest, but i can bet there r loads out there that u have never considered because u r horny over some girl who considers herself very attractive and so has loads of guys out there!
There are also some girls who just want one night stands, that way nothing can get very complicated!
In general though, everything is fucking complicated!

In my case, i seem to like guys who are either taken, gay or FREAKS!
Damnit!
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Postby Pender Native on Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:04 pm


Women are fucking retarded. What's wrong with being a chilled out dude?


The opposite of confident is not chilled out, but insecure and insecure guys are no more attractive then insecure girls. If someone doesn't like themself and shows this then that will probably dissuade many people from pursuing them regardless of gender. If a guy is insecure and falls apart if he sees you talking to another guy or if he doesn't hear from you for a day or two - that's just not attractive. Any more then clingyness or neediness would would be in a girl.

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Postby Rilla on Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:05 pm

[s]theflirt wrote on 16:59, 11th Dec 2004:In my case, i seem to like guys who are either taken, gay or FREAKS!
Damnit!


exactly! In the past year, the only people interested in me have been ... no, wait, scrap that, in the past 2 years, the only people interested in me have been guys with mental illness. Not that I have anything against mental illness per se, it's just I don't want to go out with someone who needs drugs to get them out of bed in the morning and then ring me at 1 am from the union asking me why I'm not there with them.
They seem to want some sort of mother figure or someone to make them better.
Actually, the more i think about this the more disturbing it all is.
All I want is someone sane.

Is it so bad maddog to want someone with some self-confidence?



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Postby Sunflower on Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:08 pm

[s]MadDog20/20 wrote on 16:48, 11th Dec 2004:


Someone's been burned....
Avoid generalizations when talking about half the population of the world. You're bound to make an ass of yourself.
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Ha ha actually no I havent. But loads of my mates have and I have just become increasingly frustrated with the peculiar and irrational choices women make when it comes to picking men.
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oh right men are so much better. You have a very disturbed concept of women. A lot of women are very confident in themselves and their lives and don't need men to raise their self-esteems, though they would like a relationship with a man for companionship, love, and yes, sex. Self-confidence is not the same as charisma. Women want men who like themselves. You don't even have to like yourself all the time--no one has that-- you just have to like who you are most of the time and care about yourself and others.

MadDog--I don't believe you when you say you haven't been burned and I know you haven't actually had a REAL relationship with a woman...one that involves actually getting to know her...you are just scared...a big pussy about it really...

Stop coming up with crap about women and get to know and talk to some of the women you claim friendship with...you might be surprised by what we are really like
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Postby Sunflower on Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:13 pm

[s]niallo wrote on 02:58, 4th Dec 2004:
What is going on?
Why?
Women are the most uncomprehendable entity in the universe( I should know, I pretend to study astrophysics!) Women are evil!!!!!!! Why can they not be simple, like men! Fucking women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ok my friends and I have been discussing this and in fact, I am currently working on a novel about this very topic...women can be evil, but they can also be good people...we aren't as difficult to understand as you might think..try actually communicating honestly with us...some of us will really respond in kind and both sides can learn from each other. I don't think men are as simple as they claim. I think this is something you sometimes hide behind to escape actually communicating... as one guy I know put it. You only need three things in life

1) Beer
2) Steak
3) Sport (or dog)

Yet this same guy, worries about his work, hangs out with friends, keeps in touch with friends that don't live near, worries about his family, and discusses at length every topic under the sun...that is not simple...that is a human being...

Try to COMMUNICATE!!! You would be surprised what kind of response you get from people if you ask questions and actually listen to the answer.

What exactly did the woman do? Anyways..
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Postby Cain on Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:20 pm

[s]Sunflower wrote on 17:13, 11th Dec 2004:
... as one guy I know put it. You only need three things in life

1) Beer
2) Steak
3) Sport (or dog)

Yet this same guy, worries about his work, hangs out with friends, keeps in touch with friends that don't live near, worries about his family, and discusses at length every topic under the sun...that is not simple...that is a human being...


yes, people are complicated.

I'm a guy and I don't pretend to understand myself, and i have friends who are equally bemused by how they think and feel.

Just think about how hard it is to understand somebody else.

Sunflower is right: communication is the way ahead. If people were able to speak to each other, and a lot of this has to do with confidence/security, then they would get on a lot better, or at least have an idea as to why they were not.

please people, speak to each other.

Also, there are some good men/women out there. it's just a matter of finding them (and that is a matter for another thread.)

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Postby harmless loony on Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:21 pm

Mad dog: Maybe you just have a bad habit of getting to know the wrong kind of women.

The 2 categories of women you've just gone on about are not generalisations of all women in the world but generalisation of YOUR experience of women!

For the record, I fall into neither category - I don't sleep around and my self esteem is good - I don't need a man to make me feel better about myself thanks.

Oh and by the way, no woman would want to come within an inch of a guy who cannot be bothered to get to know a woman as an individual and prefers to assume what a woman is actually like.

Whatever your problem or history, get over it and have a little bit of respect for women and you might see a different side.
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Postby MadDog20/20 on Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:39 pm

Well look, the original post was a joke post. Now its getting kind of tedious. But I stick by the point that women give FAR too much credit for a guy having confidence. It really is shit. And its not personal, because I have plenty. (confidence, not shit!)

It certainly is the case that most women prefer confident guys. And its a great shame. The quiet guys are nearly always the nicest, yet they get laid the least. It is not fair.

I appreciate that there are a few stellar woman that manage to arrive here with no issues and well balanced personalities, but they are few and far between. Good for you.
I listen to feminists and all these radical gals - most of them are failures. They've blown it. Some of them have been married, but they married some Casper Milquetoast who asked permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men - that's their problem. ~Jerry Falwell
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Postby theflirt on Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:44 pm

Rilla wrote on 17:05, 11th Dec 2004:All I want is someone sane

This is quite a lot to ask here I think, adding to what was previously said, if you want a sane guy they seem to be taken. Or hang about together in places i do not go....oh someone please tell me where this place is....PLEASE!!!!
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Postby Pender Native on Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:44 pm

[s]MadDog20/20 wrote on 17:39, 11th Dec 2004:
Well look, the original post was a joke post. Now its getting kind of tedious. But I stick by the point that women give FAR too much credit for a guy having confidence. It really is shit. And its not personal, because I have plenty. (confidence, not shit!)

It certainly is the case that most women prefer confident guys. And its a great shame. The quiet guys are nearly always the nicest, yet they get laid the least. It is not fair.

I appreciate that there are a few stellar woman that manage to arrive here with no issues and well balanced personalities, but they are few and far between. Good for you.


I admit it's a shame that nice guys can be overlooked, but again I have to question your contrast. You can be quiet and confident, I find that combination more attractive then cocky guys, but that's just my opnion.

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Postby Rilla on Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:14 pm

[s]dunqn wrote on 20:11, 11th Dec 2004:I was recently told that "girls and guys can't be just friends" - I don't know how anyone can think this. Every girl I know, i'm "just" friends with, and almost without exception, I'm happy with that the way it is.



I think girls and guys can just be good friends. IT's when other people start gossiping and commenting on hte friendship that it causes problems. Some of my best friends here are guys and I wouldn't change a single thing about the friendships.

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Postby novium on Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:40 pm

[s]MadDog20/20 wrote on 17:39, 11th Dec 2004:
It certainly is the case that most women prefer confident guys. And its a great shame. The quiet guys are nearly always the nicest, yet they get laid the least. It is not fair.






they get laid the least? Urgh. sex is not the issue here. Relationships are. But ANYWAY, the same thing (re:confidence) is true the other way around.

Let's face it. Confident people are attractive. (and I mean that literally). They don't have to be all that good looking or all that witty and people will still graviate towards them. I don't think you have to bring gender into it.
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Postby novium on Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:44 pm

[s]Rilla wrote on 20:14, 11th Dec 2004:
[s]dunqn wrote on 20:11, 11th Dec 2004:[i]I was recently told that "girls and guys can't be just friends" - I don't know how anyone can think this. Every girl I know, i'm "just" friends with, and almost without exception, I'm happy with that the way it is.



I think girls and guys can just be good friends. IT's when other people start gossiping and commenting on hte friendship that it causes problems. Some of my best friends here are guys and I wouldn't change a single thing about the friendships.

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I agree. I am sort of tired of only really having girl friends this year. I am used to having friends of both genders. I think you talk about different things when you're in an all-girl group. I sometimes feel like I've been at an endless slumber party here. Nails, hair, gossip, talking about guys, soaps, chick flicks.... etc etc etc etc. Oh, serious issues too, and the sort of things you discuss with anyone, regardless of gender. But I do sort of miss the late night mel brooks movies and family guy. And slightly risque juvenile jokes.
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Postby c. on Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:04 am

oh poor thing! speaking from experience are we?
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Postby MadDog20/20 on Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:00 pm

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they get laid the least? Urgh. sex is not the issue here. Relationships are. But ANYWAY, the same thing (re:confidence) is true the other way around.

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Sex/relationships whatever. Girls love confidence and IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I really don't think confidence is a big deal. Personally i quite prefer chilled out, laid back people.

All I'm saying is I get way more attention from chicks when I behave like the main man at the party, and that is bullshit. It has no bearing on my abillity to be a good loving boyfriend, or even good in the sack. I really can't see why anyone would think confidence is sexy. It's totally irrelevant to anything.
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Postby vickiangeleyes on Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:13 pm

[s]MadDog20/20 wrote on 12:00, 12th Dec 2004:


they get laid the least? Urgh. sex is not the issue here. Relationships are. But ANYWAY, the same thing (re:confidence) is true the other way around.

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Sex/relationships whatever. Girls love confidence and IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I really don't think confidence is a big deal. Personally i quite prefer chilled out, laid back people.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with a girl who is confident. What is your definition of a confident girl? cause everyones idea of confidence can be different. Just cause a girl is confident doesn't mean she doesn't have shy moments and can't be laid back etc etc like you were saying. I think that you are just judging from your past experiences with girls not girls in general.............

All I'm saying is I get way more attention from chicks when I behave like the main man at the party, and that is bullshit. It has no bearing on my abillity to be a good loving boyfriend, or even good in the sack. I really can't see why anyone would think confidence is sexy. It's totally irrelevant to anything.
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Postby Wong on Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:17 pm

Well, if you do behave like the "main man" at a party, you'll draw more attention to yourself - therefore you'll get more attention.

Hmm, that could have been worded better.

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