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Postby flarewearer on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:00 pm

Would some chemist please explain how one makes the inorganic organic?

[s]On the subject of salt, apparently Wotsits are saltier than brine.

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Postby themushroomgod on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:05 pm

What's the context? There are a lot of organic salts, usually of amines or organic acids. If, as I assume, you're talking about table salt, it's the chloride ion that provides the 'salty' taste, but the sodium that's bad for you. Presumably, the sodium has been replaced with a positively charged organic ion, such as a protonated amine.

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Postby flarewearer on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:07 pm

As in you can buy "organic" cooking salt in the shops. I was wondering how you make the inorganic Sodium Chloride organic (in any context)

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Postby Smith on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:25 pm

actually, I'm pretty sure the body needs some sodium in it.

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Postby DrAlex on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:31 pm

Quoting Smith from 16:25, 23rd Mar 2006
actually, I'm pretty sure the body needs some sodium in it.


Your neurons wouldn't get far without it, but I don't see your point...

While we're discussing salts, can someone please explain to me low-sodium table salt?

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Postby exnihilo on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:31 pm

You don't make the inorganic organic.

There's organic as a chemical term describing a group of chemicals of which NaCl is not part.

Then there's organic as a term for a method of production which is free from artificial pesticides etc.

It's still dodgy, but I suppose it's possible to produce salt organically. I imagine the stuff mined in Siberia would count.
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Postby Grandpa on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:37 pm

Quoting flarewearer from 16:00, 23rd Mar 2006
Would some chemist please explain how one makes the inorganic organic?


(not the answer you are looking for, but...)

Plant it in ground fertilised with cow shit that has been fertilised in that way for a number of years.


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Postby exnihilo on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:49 pm

From carefully screened cows with no history of substance abuse.
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Postby Stu on Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:49 pm

Quoting DrAlex from 16:31, 23rd Mar 2006

Your neurons wouldn't get far without it, but I don't see your point...

While we're discussing salts, can someone please explain to me low-sodium table salt?


They replace the sodium with something else. Usually potassium. Simple.
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Postby flarewearer on Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:55 pm

Quoting Stu from 17:46, 23rd Mar 2006
Quoting DrAlex from 16:31, 23rd Mar 2006

Your neurons wouldn't get far without it, but I don't see your point...

While we're discussing salts, can someone please explain to me low-sodium table salt?


They replace the sodium with something else. Usually potassium. Simple.


Yes its a mix of NaCl and KCl, pretty fucking pointless really, why dont you just use less salt if you're worried ¬

Back to my original point, seeing as cooking salt cannot be organic in the chemical sense, and seeing as you either dig it out the ground or evaporate it out of water, how can it be organic in the foody sense?

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Postby Thackary on Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:39 pm

Maybe they don't use any chemicals in the purification process?
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Postby Ashley on Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:59 pm

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticaking_agent

Lots of artificial chemicals, as opposed to pure sea salt.

Salt, also, the only rock consumed by humans. I've never thought of it like that.

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Postby Mr Comedy on Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:31 pm

Not entirely. I've been on geography field trips and got so hungry that I've resorted to nibbling on a block of quartz.

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Postby Thackary on Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:39 pm

Consumed? Or ingested?

Actually, there's lots of rocks that we consume/ingest.
Take toothpaste for example. It's packed full of silicon dioxide. And that's just one example.
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Postby ARTooD2 on Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:44 pm

Are the other salts bad for you??? Or do they just not taste nice?

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Postby flarewearer on Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:44 pm

Quoting Ashley from 12:59, 24th Mar 2006
Salt, also, the only rock consumed by humans. I've never thought of it like that.
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Not so, all that "added goodness of calcium" in your breakfast cereal? None other than good old fashioned Calcium Carbonate AKA Chalk

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Postby Pedant on Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:56 pm

And Rennies etc
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Postby Duggeh on Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:44 pm

And blackpool rock, and edinburgh rock, and rock cakes, and rocky biscuits and rocky road ice cream and rock-et ice lollies.

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