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[Prophet Tenebrae]

Yup, imagine if that is a metaphor for his candidacy.

[Ashley]

Lol, and the *banter* continues.. You two are right, mind.

[hr]Nobody ever mentions the weather can make or break your day

[Pussycat]

http://www.yourunion.net/main/elections/Sabbaticals

Who would you vote for? (the answer is "not Darshy").

[niall]

[s]Amanda wrote on 02:49, 16th Mar 2003:
was that darshan putting on the bop bands?! have to agree with 10 here - not the best bop band putter onner ever!


he was dire. i'd give him two days at my work before they sacked him if he did that. try a bus of screamming 10 year olds, wind and a massive roll of sticky bands. (and no desk to put the bands on either.

[hr]
its a spoon!

http://www.tastyspoon.com

[n]

I've just read the 100 words - is it just me or do they make for entertaining reading? Banning land mines in the Union? What? don't think there's been motion passed to that effect- hecklings should be fun!!!!!! Apologies for my boyfriend's strange sense of humour!!!
by the way James- can we pop out 400 words round to your house? or do we post them on here?

[James Baster]

Email them to me. Don't post them yourself. And no printouts, I'm damned if I'm typing out 400 words per candidate. Also, please ask any further questions by email (or in person. But just not on the site.)

And if your going to get involved in political debate under that pseudoname, please reveal it.

[hr][s]Come Robin. We shall leave. Through the window. Inconspicuously ... Using our batropes.[/s]

[Al]

Is there any part of Darshan's spiel that is even remotely relevant? What do we learn?

He is from Kenya and London. He had a gap year. He is a debater.

Marvellously convincing stuff, is it not? I just wish I could vote for him. That way, I could be sure he'd lose.

[hr]We are near waking when we dream we are dreaming.

[Cain]

why does james north think that we need a cyber cafe in a union when we have access in the library, various IT offices, hall computer rooms (admittedly rubbish) and most (but not all) students have access resnet. Would this cyber cafe be free to use? in which case, it would compete with the library and be another drain on the IT services. if it isn't free, why would people use it. and why in the union?

and live music in the old union diner? why? not a very pressing issue, and i don't see the attraction myself.

doesn't seem like a set of votewinners.

[Ashley]

I'm intrigued by North's claim to have Student radio by September. Anyone know any more details? I thought it had been established, for one on these pages, that it was not viable here in St Andrews?

[hr]Nobody ever mentions the weather can make or break your day

[Cain]

what's a "stock exchange drinking" night.

does the union provide funky jackets and we all stand in a circle making funny hand gestures and shouting at the top of our voices?

I could vote for one of those.

[Ashley]

Interesting interpretation Cain I think that'd be rather cool. However, that educator of the Masses, Hollyoaks taught me it's a night where drinks all start off cheap then get more expensive as demand goes up. The union gets to sell of its less popular drinks and makes more and more money for its more popular ones. However, because of constant price changes you never know how much a drink is.

[hr]Nobody ever mentions the weather can make or break your day

[Al]

All too often, in student elections, people make wild promises just to get elected. And equally all too often they either know they won't or can't make good on their election pledges. If they lose - it doesn't matter. If they win - it's too late. James North's election material seems to be a fantasy wish list of the highest order. To take one example - a student radio station is impossible. It's been talked about for years. Hasn't happened. Won't happen. They are simply too many problems to overcome.

The best candidates (and the best officers) are usually the ones who don't promise to do anything except try their hardest for students.


[hr]We are near waking when we dream we are dreaming.

[pete]

[s]Al wrote on 11:26, 17th Mar 2003:
All too often, in student elections, people make wild promises just to get elected. And equally all too often they either know they won't or can't make good on their election pledges. If they lose - it doesn't matter. If they win - it's too late. James North's election material seems to be a fantasy wish list of the highest order. To take one example - a student radio station is impossible. It's been talked about for years. Hasn't happened. Won't happen. They are simply too many problems to overcome.

The best candidates (and the best officers) are usually the ones who don't promise to do anything except try their hardest for students.


[hr][i]We are near waking when we dream we are dreaming.
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You say a radio station is impossible but have you actually looked into it yourself? I know James has, he's been involved in the project for three years and I know for definite that he could get it organised.
And as for voting for people who will try their hardest for students it's a bit pointless. Surely ALL of teh candidates will try their best. Anybody who has to point it out is either 1. not taking it seriously or 2. spineless and has no decent ideas or vision. There is nothing wrong with trying to go into the union with a bit of vision and drive. Saying you'll 'try your hardest' is just pathetic.

[Al]

I was on the Students' Association Executive when the idea of a student radio station made one of its periodic appearances. The idea was rejected then as it has been every single time. Why do think this is? Perhaps the following information, from the Radio Authority, might give a slight clue -

"Long term Restricted Licences are intended for the use of establishment-based broadcasters. In order to qualify, an establishment must be non-commercial (i.e. not operating primarily as a business concern), and occupy a clearly definable single site (i.e. where an unbroken boundary line can be drawn, within which all property is part of the host establishment, and there is no permanent resident population).

And

"The Authority considers it important that a formal link is maintained at all times between the radio station and the establishment it serves, and for this reason, the licensee for a LRSL MUST be a permanent senior member of staff of the establishment being served. (For example,...in the case of a university, the registrar or students' union manager.)

Has James North secured the approval of just such a person before he makes such a promise to the students?

In addition, licence applicants must prove that they are economically viable for the whole of the license period of five years. Otherwise the licence will not be granted.

[hr]We are near waking when we dream we are dreaming.

[Prophet Tenebrae]

Pete I think you need to do something with your ideas - buck them up or something like that. All students will *not* try their hardest if elected.

The fact that - having now looked at the Union website and read all the electoral spiel - several of the candiditates have choosen to make ridiculous promises merely shows that they don't have any genuine thought through policies.

Furthermore, it can't just be what one is going to proactively pursue but also positions on existing issues. I do believe that the right President *could* actually make a difference to the quality of student life, as yet I haven't seen one of those - so they could be a mythical creature of some sort.

But to conclude - if someone promises something that looks too good. Don't believe it.

[rubbermuffin]

Couldn't we have an internet radio station? But a decent one.

[hr]'I said I'd enjoyed talking to them a lot, too. I meant it, too. I'd have enjoyed it even more though, I think, if I hadn't been sort of afraid, the whole time I was talking to them, that they'd all of a sudden try to find out if I was a Catholic.'

[Cain]

If Silent Bob has taught us anything, then it is
"there is no Try. Do or Do Not."

or, to quote Mason in the Rock:

"Your best? Losers always whine about doing their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

[Cola Cube]

Ejaj Ahmad:
"Security for female students - better street lights + 2000 free alarms - Sept'03"

More street light isn't going to happen unless you fund it yourself.

James North:
"rising above petty politics,
cutting the red tape"

Meaning...?

Darshan Sanghrajka:
"blah blah blah"

Really? Do tell.

Xander Cansell:
"Regular big name DJs"

How?

[Oli]

[s]Cain wrote on 10:49, 17th Mar 2003:
why does james north think that we need a cyber cafe in a union when we have access in the library, various IT offices, hall computer rooms (admittedly rubbish) and most (but not all) students have access resnet.

I think the point is that a cyber cafe is a place where people can check email or surf the web in a relaxed atmosphere, perhaps with a drink and a snack. A bit like Costa, but without the overpriced coffee and the neds skiving off school.

Would this cyber cafe be free to use? in which case, it would compete with the library and be another drain on the IT services. if it isn't free, why would people use it.

I should think it would be free to use, otherwise people would use the others you have mentioned. The only drain on IT services would be for installation and maintenance. An extra 10 terminals wouldn't really increase traffic that much.

and why in the union?

It has a more relaxed atmosphere than the other computer rooms in the university.

and live music in the old union diner? why? not a very pressing issue, and i don't see the attraction myself.

I agree. No real point - there are plenty of other venues with live music. It would be good to have the OUD as a place with its own character, without needing to borrow from other pubs and bars.

[stan]

back to the point about a uni radio. york uni has one, had one since the uni started. why cant st andrews uni do a york and actually get something done?

[hr]if music be the food of life then radiohead be a spam sandwich.