Quoting Grant from 11:22, 19th Apr 2008
I just think perhaps people should less expect their accomdating country to adapt to them, rather they should adapt to that country. I would expect no different if I myself emigrated to another country.
Quoting 12giraffes from 12:15, 19th Apr 2008Quoting Grant from 11:22, 19th Apr 2008
I just think perhaps people should less expect their accomdating country to adapt to them, rather they should adapt to that country. I would expect no different if I myself emigrated to another country.
I absolutely, 100% agree with that. I said something similar to a group of friends once, and more than one of them seemed shocked at my statement. But it's how I feel, if I were to move to a country with a different way of life than that I'm used to in Scotland, then I'd be the one who'd have to adapt to a new environment. The environment shouldn't have to adapt to me. Punkt.
Quoting 12giraffes from 12:15, 19th Apr 2008Quoting Grant from 11:22, 19th Apr 2008
I just think perhaps people should less expect their accomdating country to adapt to them, rather they should adapt to that country. I would expect no different if I myself emigrated to another country.
I absolutely, 100% agree with that. I said something similar to a group of friends once, and more than one of them seemed shocked at my statement. But it's how I feel, if I were to move to a country with a different way of life than that I'm used to in Scotland, then I'd be the one who'd have to adapt to a new environment. The environment shouldn't have to adapt to me. Punkt.
Quoting niall from 19:04, 19th Apr 2008
If scotland gain independence, it will be with a SNP government, but i don't see the SNP winning their first general election after independence. I think there are a lot of people who, politically, align themselves with one of the other parties, but want independence.
Quoting MJC from 16:11, 19th Apr 2008Quoting 12giraffes from 12:15, 19th Apr 2008Quoting Grant from 11:22, 19th Apr 2008
I just think perhaps people should less expect their accomdating country to adapt to them, rather they should adapt to that country. I would expect no different if I myself emigrated to another country.
I absolutely, 100% agree with that. I said something similar to a group of friends once, and more than one of them seemed shocked at my statement. But it's how I feel, if I were to move to a country with a different way of life than that I'm used to in Scotland, then I'd be the one who'd have to adapt to a new environment. The environment shouldn't have to adapt to me. Punkt.
I think that this is completely irrelevant to the discussion of Scottish independence. I have never before heard anyone claim a massive cultural difference between the Scottish and the rest of the United Kingdom.
However I think that you make a perfectly valid point if you were talking about immigration as a whole.
Quoting rob 'f*ck off' wine boy from 19:18, 19th Apr 2008
Forgive me for my ignorance, but if that is indeed the case then why hasn't a party been formed with Scottish independence as part of its manifesto whose policies are more in line with what people want?
Quoting McK from 22:14, 19th Apr 2008Quoting rob 'f*ck off' wine boy from 19:18, 19th Apr 2008
Forgive me for my ignorance, but if that is indeed the case then why hasn't a party been formed with Scottish independence as part of its manifesto whose policies are more in line with what people want?
There are other parties who have independence as part of their manifesto: Solidarity and the Scottish Socialist Party are examples.
Quoting from 14:10, 20th Apr 2008
they have followed through on promises which make a difference. this week my brother who just graduate from st andrews received a letter stating that he does not have to pay a graduate endowment anymore, exactly what we were promised. the "gimmick" of independence is not exactly true, they have done more than just raise this issue. i still vote lib dem...
Quoting Hennessy from 21:07, 19th Apr 2008
To be fair, in response to the gist of this thread, the only reason the SNP are in minority government is largely due to what was seen as a widespread "protest vote" against labour last May.
Also an independent Scotland would have to deal with burden of an abnormally large public sector, declining North Sea oil stocks (hence declining revenue) in the future, and of course a lack of influence in Westminister, which has profited Scottish politicians in the past and at present.
Which is why I'm a unionist, but I respect everybody's right to their own view and hold no grudge against seperatists and Scottish nationalists.
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Quoting from 14:10, 20th Apr 2008
they have followed through on promises which make a difference. this week my brother who just graduate from st andrews received a letter stating that he does not have to pay a graduate endowment anymore, exactly what we were promised. the "gimmick" of independence is not exactly true, they have done more than just raise this issue. i still vote lib dem...
Quoting theshadowhost from 12:57, 19th Apr 2008Quoting 12giraffes from 12:15, 19th Apr 2008Quoting Grant from 11:22, 19th Apr 2008
I just think perhaps people should less expect their accomdating country to adapt to them, rather they should adapt to that country. I would expect no different if I myself emigrated to another country.
I absolutely, 100% agree with that. I said something similar to a group of friends once, and more than one of them seemed shocked at my statement. But it's how I feel, if I were to move to a country with a different way of life than that I'm used to in Scotland, then I'd be the one who'd have to adapt to a new environment. The environment shouldn't have to adapt to me. Punkt.
when i moved to Scotland I adapted to the way of life here. I wear a kilt and eat battered haggis every day.
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Quoting TCT from 15:16, 20th Apr 2008Quoting from 14:10, 20th Apr 2008
they have followed through on promises which make a difference. this week my brother who just graduate from st andrews received a letter stating that he does not have to pay a graduate endowment anymore, exactly what we were promised. the "gimmick" of independence is not exactly true, they have done more than just raise this issue. i still vote lib dem...
Actually not 'exactly what we were promised'. Fiona Hyslop - Education Secretary - promised a lot more re scrapping student debt before the election. It was all there on her website until very recently when mysteriously the conflicting material, between pre-election promise and the reality of what the SNP are actually doing, disappeared.
As for the other pro-independence parties, not all have the same manifesto. SNP has a rather different economic policy to, say, Solidarity. So combining their forces to vote through more pro-independence MSPs would lead to a mish-mash of policies which would not gel at all.
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