macgamer wrote:Indeed, but can biochemistry or neuroscience explain consciousness or love?
Can it explain it? Science isn't limited by tense. Saying it cannot explain something is not the same as saying that it will not explain something. The brain is like a little box of magic... except, there is no such thing as magic; merely the unexplained. Love and consciousness are neural. Welcome to the world of monism, my dualist clutcher-of-magic.
macgamer wrote:So much for humanism. Sounds more like satanism to me.
You don't understand what humanism is if you think that it is contravened by a single word I've said. You certainly don't understand what Satanism is, either. I mean, which flavour of Satanism? LaVey, or one of the more long-standing ones that Catholicism has condemned for so long? I listened to a Satanic Mass once. It consisted of a Christian prayer in reverse. Which made me laugh. Satanists (aside from the worship of the self) are Christians having a temper tantrum.
The father, the son, the holy spirit... oh, and Satan. Not exactly a monotheism. Plus, Catholicism throws the Blessed Virgin Mary into the mixing pot, to further pollute the original message.
macgamer wrote:I would not like to live in a society organised along your mindset or philosophy.
Largely, you already do. Welcome to planet Earth.
macgamer wrote:It sounds miserable, meaningless, depressing and nihilistic, where there is no instrinsic worth in anything or anyone.
Worth (or value) is a personal thing. Everyone has something (or someone) that they value. So, yet again, you have failed to understand the non-macgamer version of the world.
macgamer wrote:How could hold such a society together without degenerating into anarchy? Why of course an all powerful state that knows truly what is best for its citizens.
Again, look out of your window. Mostly, it's already there... save for some social-evolutionary throwbacks. For that, look in the mirror. As for your suggestion of Communism, it really isn't a binary world where the absence of macgamerism equates to Communism.
macgamer wrote:Can you identify schadenfreude and the bully within yourself? Do you take pleasure in crushing other people? What does that say about you? What are your motives?
Translation: I'm a bully, therefore you are the bullied.
There is no schadenfreude in me. Not so far as you are concerned, at least. Your problems are self-prescribed. In the past, I have provided my own Walls of Text (and seen others do the same) in an effort to help you escape from the prison you have created for yourself. You have ignored it all. And yet you keep producing the same misguided nonsense that you always have, boosted by new users on TheSinner providing their own Walls of Text. And still, you ignore evidence, sound advice and (importantly) the key to your prison cell... and I'm left wondering what your motivation is for doing so.
You are the village idiot, with his head in the stocks yelling at people to throw rotten fruit at them... and then calling them bullies when they do so.
So it is reasonable to have the response of a giant What The Fuck?
macgamer wrote:I come here to hear other points of view. To test my own opinions with people who disagree with me vehemently. It is a sort of training. If I cannot explain and justify my position to others how could I continue to hold them?
All of which is pointless, because you consistently ignore those counterarguments. Time after time, I've seen users of TheSinner provide perfectly valid and sound reasoning why your position is flawed. I mean, I've only been here for... 4 years or so, so perhaps you used to accept their reasoning before... oh, no, wait: your position is that of The Vatican, so it is pointless beyond all pointlessness to argue any case to you whatsoever. And yet you still throw around your insanities.
Too harsh a word? Calling you insane? Well, let's see. According to you, either the entirety of Catholicism is correct or none of it is. But what if every part of the bible was correct, apart from the last written testament: Matthew. Imagine what that would mean? Jesus Christ, son of God, delivered the message... and it was recorded faithfully, apart from one late-comer who provided a lot of nonense about the Nativity and Peter being The Rock? What then?
All or nothing? You really do live in a binary state.
Humans are grey... and every shade of grey.
macgamer wrote:Self-pity and the seeking of pity should be avoided it is not mature behaviour. I'd imagine few people can search themselves and claim that this tendency has been eradicated completely.
Well now, tell me about the aspects of my life for which you should feel pity for me.
You have no idea, because I've never shared them. I'm certainly not going to play a game of "my woes are greater than yours" but entertain the idea, if you can, that nobody on here has a life of blissful harmony.
macgamer wrote:Yes, partly to proselytise too. To show to people that there is a diversity of approaches to life. Others may find it interesting if not convincing. I find the reaction of others interesting too. I am able to refine my presentation afterwards.
How's the conversion rate? Has anyone decided to stop "shaking hands"?
macgamer wrote:Strange as it might seem to you, RedCelt69, even you serve a purpose in my life. I'm not entirely sure how that will square with your nihilism. I'm much happier with my hope, even if you see it as pitiable self-deception lacking in intellectual rigour.
I'm not a nihilist. Seriously, if you're going to throw words around, at least learn what they mean first.