Inter-Residence Debating Competition 2007

[Alex Jennings]

It's that time of year again - the John Blair Shield is up for grabs again.

Melville is the current champion, so if you want to defend your hall's title or prove that there's another hall that is better, here's what you need to know.

Wednesday, 21 February we'll be holding both the preliminary rounds and the formal final in Lower Parliament Hall at 7.30pm for 8pm.

Registration is from 1-2pm. The three preliminary rounds will run from 2pm - 6pm and the top four teams will then speak in the final.

So find someone from your hall and form a team, or if you are in private accomodation you may debate with someone else also in private accomodation and get ready for a great day of debating!

If there are any questions, please e-mail me at .

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"Look, I told you when we met that I was not a leprechaun, that I was from Rhode Island, and that I was half Korean, but you said it didn't matter."

[kdc4]

A massive well done to Alex and to all who helped her yesterday at the Inter-Residence Competition. Teams from Melville, Albany, Sallies, DRA, Deans Court, McIntosh, John Burnet, and the Crichton Montrose society took part.

Motions:

THB: That Women Have No Place in the Military
THW: Impose Criminal Penalties on the Parents of Obese Children.
THW: Make Foreign Aid Dependent Upon Sterilisation

Final:

1st Prop: Dean's Court(DiTraglia and Mintz)
2nd Prop: Market Street(Grieve and Whitbread)
1st Opp: Camp Concentration (Cahn and Vit)
2nd Opp: Crichton Montrose (Murphy and Emmett)

Motion: THB: That Prince Harry Should Serve in Iraq.

Winners: Camp Concentration (Cahn and Vit)

Top Speaker on Tab: Jason Vit.

Well done to All,
-Doug

[kdc4]

A massive well done to Alex and to all who helped her yesterday at the Inter-Residence Competition. Teams from Melville, Albany, Sallies, DRA, Deans Court, McIntosh, John Burnet, and the Crichton Montrose society took part.

Motions:

THB: That Women Have No Place in the Military
THW: Impose Criminal Penalties on the Parents of Obese Children.
THW: Make Foreign Aid Dependent Upon Sterilisation

Final:

1st Prop: Dean's Court(DiTraglia and Mintz)
2nd Prop: Market Street(Grieve and Whitbread)
1st Opp: Camp Concentration (Cahn and Vit)
2nd Opp: Crichton Montrose (Murphy and Emmett)

Motion: THB: That Prince Harry Should Serve in Iraq.

Winners: Camp Concentration (Cahn and Vit)

Top Speaker on Tab: Jason Vit.

Well done to All,
-Doug

[Connie]

Especially well done to those who were feeling particularly lightbulb-tastic!

[Lid]

Just a thought, but at the start of the next debate, does anyone fancy reinstating the Standing Orders, which by my reckoning, are still suspended?

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We are not drunks, we are multi-millionaires

[Jessica]

Good plan.

[David Bean]

What was that about?

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Psalm 91:7

[TC]

The standing orders where suspended by the Speaker for the final because of the need to speak plainly about matters concerning the Royal family. This was done after several points of order had been made and it was realised that the debate would have got bogged down if the orders where not suspended. It would have been to the detriment of the debate if every time a speaker made a pertinant comment concerning Harry's drug taking, party attair, partying, red hair, general stupidity etc he/she had to stop as a point was raised. It also allowed for a much more interesting set of speaches!

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Per Ardua ad Astra

[TC]

Quoting TC from 20:17, 22nd Feb 2007
The standing orders where suspended by the Speaker during the final because of the need to speak plainly about matters concerning the Royal family. This was done after several points of order had been made and it was realised that the debate would have got bogged down if the orders where not suspended. It would have been to the detriment of the debate if every time a speaker made a pertinant comment concerning Harry's drug taking, party attair, partying, red hair, general stupidity etc he/she had to stop as a point was raised.

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Per Ardua ad Astra

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Per Ardua ad Astra

[exnihilo]

When did it become the royal family that was sacrosanct? It used to just be HM the Queen...

[OhhMy]

Quoting exnihilo from 20:49, 22nd Feb 2007
When did it become the royal family that was sacrosanct? It used to just be HM the Queen...

I believe, though I may be mistaken when 'he who must not be named' attended our university.

[TC]

Unfortunatly part 3.VI of the standing orders states "The Speaker will rule out of order any remarks which are ungentlemanly, or which reflect negatively upon their own conduct or upon members of the Royal Family." Therefore calling Harry a red-head or saying he has taken drugs could be ruled out of order, regardless of how true it may be.

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Per Ardua ad Astra

[exnihilo]

Yes, I'm not disputing that it says that, I'm asking when it came to say that as I recall it applying only to the monarch. Perhaps now that HHSNBN has left we could change it back.

[TC]

I have no idea when it was changed. It was like that when I arrived at St Andrews in 2005.

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Per Ardua ad Astra

[Imago]

Quoting exnihilo from 21:58, 22nd Feb 2007
Perhaps now that HHSNBN has left we could change it back.

Since when was Who spelled with an H?

[Al]

Quoting Imago from 23:06, 22nd Feb 2007
Since when was Who spelled with an H?

It's there between the W and O.

[exnihilo]

Gosh, did I make a mistake when I typed it? Be assured I shall publically apologise next time I'm in the chamber.

[Guest]

Unfortunatly part 3.VI states "The Speaker will rule out of order any remarks which are ungentlemanly, or which reflect negatively upon their own conduct or upon members of the Royal Family."

[exnihilo]

Is it just me, or is this getting really circular?

[Lid]

I'm finding it quite amazing that nobody's expressed the annoyance I felt at the suspension of the Standing Orders. I was, of course, bad mannered from thereon in, I needn't maintain good conduct.

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We are not drunks, we are multi-millionaires