Singapore Worlds 2004

[Al]

[s]Anon. wrote on 20:25, 6th Aug 2003:
What does "frigging" actually mean? Or is it just a meaningless euphemism?"

It is a euphemism but it is not a meaningless one. The word "frig" meant to move or rub together. And as sex involves both moving and rubbing together, frigging became another word for sex.

For some reason the word vaguely reminds me of chocolate milk...


Can't help you with that one.

[hr]
"Rest is not idleness, and to lie sometimes on the grass on a summer day listening to the murmur of water, or watching the clouds float across the sky, is hardly a waste of time".

[Eliot Wilson]

You all scare me.

Particularly you, Mr. Renouf.

[Anon.]

I've got it - there used to be (maybe still is) a brand of flavoured milk called "Frijj". Which looks not dissimilar to "frigg" if one leans back with half-shut eyes.

[John Stewart]

This thread gets more and more interesting by the hour.

Barry, given that generally, as Mr Dyson once so nicely pointed out in LPH, I tend to wear trousers so tight it would take a crowbar to get me out of them, I doubt anyway that your mind would be powerful enough to succeed where so many others have failed.

Besides which, I think that after a particular rag week debate, we can all agree that naked debaters are not generally a good thing.

As far as frigging goes, I believe it is a euphamism for fucking, which agrees with Al's observations. But before people leap to the conclusion that I'm a rough-edged ned, I decided to use something uncharacteristically subtle.

With that in mind, where will this thread go next? I wonder...

[David Bean]

[s]Kizzy wrote on 00:52, 7th Aug 2003:
Mr Renouf, nothing delights me more than your random associations between expletives and chocolate milk. Do explain...

You mean, he's done it before, that you know of? Or does the glass of wine represent what you were doing for the past few hours before posting this?

[larkvi]

Barry, given that generally, as Mr Dyson once so nicely pointed out in LPH, I tend to wear trousers so tight it would take a crowbar to get me out of them, I doubt anyway that your mind would be powerful enough to succeed where so many others have failed.


Please tell me that I am not the only one who finds Mr Stewart's obsessing about the state of his sexual organs in such a public venue both highly worrying and highly amusing...

[peter]

It's very much best, from a mental health point of view, not to think about Mr Stewart's organs, sexual or otherwise.

[Eliot Wilson]

Quite so, Mr. Blair. Ever the voice of reason. Frankly I find it much less unsavoury to blank out of my mind all of Mr. Stewart below the navel.

I must confess, Mr. Renouf, that I actually see how your mind works on the Frijj issue, which may be enough to keep me awake at night.

On the tight-trouser issue, a thought occurs to me gowns ought to be worn to shield, if only partially, said trouserage from the young and innocent.

[Barry Joss]

On the whole I find it both better for my mental health and surprisingly easy to blot out Mr Stewart from, well, from a spot about an inch above his head down.

Incidentally, does not "frig" and therefore "frigging" derive in part from the Norse Goddess Freya (alternatively spelt Frigg)?

[Anon.]

I don't believe so - according to the Chambers Dictionary, the only one to which I presently have access, it derives from the late Middle English "friggen", which in turn comes from the Latin "fricare", to rub. Which agrees with what Al said, v.s.

[Anon.]

Which agrees with what Al said, v.s.

Though unfortunately not v.s.o.p. Or better still, x.o.

[Barry Joss]

Having just taken a quick glance at the Shorter Oxford - it would seem that "frig" is the subject of some dispute. The mavens of Oxford are less inclined to offer such a definitive origin as Chambers it would seem. Instead they pin the word to the Later Middle Ages and say merely that it is perhaps related to other words such as "fidge", "fyke" and "fuck".

Equally well, Oxford does not include rubbing in its definition - listing instead restless movements and jiggling about. The words to which they suggest partial relation are also listed as being of unknown origin. Suggesting that Chanbers "fricare" assertion may be something of a leap based on fortuitously similar sounds and meanings.

I offer no personal opinion, but it does strike me that I have heard the "Freya" answer before, and it suggests again that people are groping to explain a word that has no clearly defined origin.

[John Stewart]

Please be assured that displaying my genitalia in any public forum is not very high up on my list of priorities. While I was half naked at the Aberdeen IV, it was from the waist up, and I had no intentions of delving any furhter south.

No, not even for the girls from Dundee.

And Mr Wilson, innocent as you remark on the shielding of sights using a gown may be, I believe that accusation of a gown and pashmina porn ring on the board of ten remain unanswered...

[David Bean]

[s]John Stewart wrote on 00:15, 9th Aug 2003:
And Mr Wilson, innocent as you remark on the shielding of sights using a gown may be, I believe that accusation of a gown and pashmina porn ring on the board of ten remain unanswered...

What about togas???

[David Bean]

[s]John Stewart wrote on 00:15, 9th Aug 2003:
And Mr Wilson, innocent as you remark on the shielding of sights using a gown may be, I believe that accusation of a gown and pashmina porn ring on the board of ten remain unanswered...

What about togas???

[Andrew Cusack]

On a side note, since there are a number of Board of Ten honchos here, I am in the midst of composing the next edition of the Mitre for late September and was wondering if there was any Debating Society business/events that ought to be pronounced from our pages. If so, just post here or email me at andrewcusack@yahoo.com.

Many thanks.

[larkvi]

[s]John Stewart wrote on 00:15, 9th Aug 2003:
And Mr Wilson, innocent as you remark on the shielding of sights using a gown may be, I believe that accusation of a gown and pashmina porn ring on the board of ten remain unanswered...

[s]David Bean wrote on 02:17, 9th Aug 2003:
What about togas???


The ring rumour seems to have changed since I was there, when it was a alleged prostitution ring. I am impressed by the durability of this legacy, though I must admit that I am fairly murky as regards the means by which Eliot came to be identified with such nefarious behavior in the first place.

I was under the impression that he was much too busy with his arms-trading business...

[Eliot Wilson]

Yes, this one has me puzzled. Pashminas and gowns are all very well - can even work together, though generally on a lady - but I have no knowledge of their pornographic connotations. Though we've all done foolish things in gowns, I'm sure...

[larkvi]

Though we've all done foolish things in gowns, I'm sure...


Ooooooh! Story time!

[David Bean]

[s]larkvi wrote on 06:05, 10th Aug 2003:
The ring rumour seems to have changed since I was there, when it was a alleged prostitution ring. I am impressed by the durability of this legacy, though I must admit that I am fairly murky as regards the means by which Eliot came to be identified with such nefarious behavior in the first place.

You forget that the Board have Ten has changed somewhat since you were here, Sean - a lot of the people who were elected as you were leaving are, well, no longer with us. I hope I wasn't linked into these allegations, was I..?

As to Eliot's question, you should ask Mr. Blair - he's the one with the pashmina fetish around here...