Another lan in teh union

[Diesel]

Last year we had a lan in the union, we should have another one. probably after chrimbo though. Thoughts?

[Senethro]

It would be kinda cool but its a real hassle organising it and getting games that people actually play.

[Nickel]

Quoting Senethro from 10:09, 2nd Dec 2005
It would be kinda cool but its a real hassle organising it and getting games that people actually play.

fortunately wiredsoc are not put off by a it of hassle

[Roulette]

Quoting Diesel from 23:51, 1st Dec 2005Thoughts?

My thoughts are that people should look at the website, which I've been diligently updating weekly.

You'll find that the minutes and agenda's are up for recent meetings. If you care to take a gander over those, you'll find we're ten steps ahead of you and have been talking about one for weeks - our problem is that our Events Co-Ordinator is slightly useless and hasn't been turning up.

[Nickel]

Quoting Roulette from 14:10, 2nd Dec 2005
My thoughts are that people should look at the website, which I've been diligently updating weekly.

plus the website is valid XHTML 1.1

you don't see that every day

[Malcolm]

Quoting dunqn from 20:43, 2nd Dec 2005
We've been talking about it for months. You're actually 27 steps behind everyone else.

Any ideas on what games we'll play if it goes ahead?

I've got Battlefield 2, a friend's copy of HL2 (using his Steam account, we share it), Rome Total War, C&C Generals Deluxe, and I've got Wolf and SOF2 at home somewhere.

[Senethro]

Quoting Malcolm from 21:53, 2nd Dec 2005
I've got Battlefield 2, a friend's copy of HL2 (using his Steam account, we share it), Rome Total War, C&C Generals Deluxe, and I've got Wolf and SOF2 at home somewhere.

This ain't your grandpaw's Wolf, we're referring to Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Its a (legal) free to download standalone game that is largely based on RTCW. The fact that its free, is relatively simple to learn and has great anti-lag code has lead to it being the most played game of the past 2 years.

Apart from that, I've only got one hit on your game list (HL2 of course, not that I'm a great fan of DM or CS:S) which just illustrates the problem.

[Malcolm]

Quoting Senethro from 23:30, 2nd Dec 2005

Quoting Malcolm from 21:53, 2nd Dec 2005
I've got Battlefield 2, a friend's copy of HL2 (using his Steam account, we share it), Rome Total War, C&C Generals Deluxe, and I've got Wolf and SOF2 at home somewhere.

This ain't your grandpaw's Wolf, we're referring to Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Its a (legal) free to download standalone game that is largely based on RTCW. The fact that its free, is relatively simple to learn and has great anti-lag code has lead to it being the most played game of the past 2 years.

Apart from that, I've only got one hit on your game list (HL2 of course, not that I'm a great fan of DM or CS:S) which just illustrates the problem.

Yeah, I've heard of Enemy Territory, wasn't it originally planned as an expansion pack but got binned and released as freeware?

I'll get it, if it's going to be the game of choice at a LAN meet.

[Nickel]

Quoting Malcolm from 00:40, 3rd Dec 2005
I'll get it, if it's going to be the game of choice at a LAN meet.

http://wired.st-and.ac.uk/~nickel/wolf/

[Mod]

I do hope that it'll be running on the latest patch. We can't really use ancient versions.

[Mod]

So, what's happening with "Teh Lan"? It's been almost a full year since the last. I do hope there's another before the new semester starts ¬_¬

[Roulette]

Quoting mod from 18:18, 10th Jan 2006
So, what's happening with "Teh Lan"? It's been almost a full year since the last. I do hope there's another before the new semester starts ¬_¬

We're working on it.

No idea of when it will actually be. Last date flung around was March 11th but we're thinking that's a little too random. I think we're going to bring that forward a whole load just so I get to panic about publicity.

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If you're the "1337 M4574!!!111", then I'm the Weirdo in the corner playing air guitar to her iPod.
Lame, but cooler than you.

[Leo Comerford]

Quoting Nickel from 16:56, 2nd Dec 2005

Quoting Roulette from 14:10, 2nd Dec 2005
My thoughts are that people should look at the website, which I've been diligently updating weekly.

plus the website is valid XHTML 1.1

you don't see that every day

There's a reason for that. XHTML 1.1 SHOULD NOT (in the IETFish meaning of the phrase) be served with the media type text/html . (See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/#summary-table .) Making valid XHTML 1.1 pages and then serving them to everyone as text/html is self-defeating and a waste of effort. In brief, if you don't know why that is and don't particularly care, then you should keep on using HTML 4.01 (served as text/html of course) for the present. If you do care, then things get complicated.

[Roulette]

Quoting Leo Comerford from 17:51, 2nd Feb 2006

Quoting Nickel from 16:56, 2nd Dec 2005

Quoting Roulette from 14:10, 2nd Dec 2005
My thoughts are that people should look at the website, which I've been diligently updating weekly.

plus the website is valid XHTML 1.1

you don't see that every day

There's a reason for that. XHTML 1.1 SHOULD NOT (in the IETFish meaning of the phrase) be served with the media type text/html . (See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/#summary-table .) Making valid XHTML 1.1 pages and then serving them to everyone as text/html is self-defeating and a waste of effort. In brief, if you don't know why that is and don't particularly care, then you should keep on using HTML 4.01 (served as text/html of course) for the present. If you do care, then things get complicated.

I just view it as fun and nice and pretty. Anything wrong with that?

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If you're the "1337 M4574!!!111", then I'm the Weirdo in the corner playing air guitar to her iPod.
Lame, but cooler than you.

[Leo Comerford]

Quoting Roulette from 19:19, 2nd Feb 2006

I just view it as fun and nice and pretty. Anything wrong with that?

XHTML 1.1 is fun, nice and pretty (see http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~lrc1). XHTML 1.1 served as text/html, on the other hand, is Purest Evil. Very briefly, the problem is that documents served as text/html are interpreted as HTML. But XHTML isn't HTML - in fact the chance that a given XHTML document is also a valid HTML document, let alone one that has exactly the same meaning when interpreted both as HTML and as XHTML, is pretty low. So your valid XHTML 1.1 is basically being served, and interpreted by browsers, as invalid, buggy HTML. This is horrible in both obvious and subtle ways. There's a special dispensation from the W3C to serve a subset of XHTML 1.0 pages (and only 1.0 pages) as text/html, but that's really a nasty kludge which only (sort-of) works because browsers are generally pretty lax about how they interpret HTML. See http://www.hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml for the gory details.

So if you want to serve XHTML 1.1, you have to a) serve it under a correct media type, preferably application/xhtml+xml and b) decide what you're going to do about the fact that IE 5, 6, and 7 don't understand XHTML and will therefore bring up a save dialog for any file they receive as application/xhtml+xml . (See http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx.)

[ljrmorgan]

What's the point in a lan to play one of the few games that we can already play over the network? Especially when its a crap game to start with. Why not something a bit racier - one of the UT or Quake games? If legality is the issue there are some free similair games - like nexuiz, though its a bit rubbish.

[Roulette]

Quoting ljrmorgan from 03:15, 3rd Feb 2006
What's the point in a lan to play one of the few games that we can already play over the network?

I think it's probably actually being able to hear the creative swearing.

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If you're the "1337 M4574!!!111", then I'm the Weirdo in the corner playing air guitar to her iPod.
Lame, but cooler than you.

[munchingfoo]

Yes, and Steve randomly screaming "I will kill you fucking family you n00bs" at people he has never met before.

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Anyone questioning how I post on the sinner, my new way of life, will offend my "religion" and as such will be dealt with in manners inclusive but by no means exlusive of death threats, random acts of violence, maiming of the general public not involved in this matter and finally a Jihad from all my fellow religious sinners.

For years we have been oppressed by you post nazis, the time of change is upon us.

[Roulette]

And this year you also get to hear me either:

a) getting worked up and swearing WITH you (and I can swear really nicely when I get going)

or

b) showing the REAL colour of my hair and acting like a dippy plank - more so than usual, anyway.

(b being the most likely)

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If you're the "1337 M4574!!!111", then I'm the Weirdo in the corner playing air guitar to her iPod.
Lame, but cooler than you.