Quoting lts2 from 21:07, 14th Jan 2007
On the notice board downstairs there are some lovely figures showing that we are using more energy than we have done last year in comparison to every other hall which have all managed to cut back, even if just by a little bit. So what is the problem?
I think its probably due to the way the residence managers (who I assume are responsible for this) are going about 'saving energy'.
Since Christmas the heating has been on less hours and not to mention the bigger issue of the water never being hot on A floor any more. It seems that they have decided to, in an attempt to win this energy saving malarky, cut back on our standard of living in hall.
Unfortunetly, my response personally to this was, one, to complain, and two, to take action like using a mini heater/leaving my PC on 24hours a day to warm up my room and the only way to solve the cold water problem seems to be to run the water for 10 minutes before getting in. I am sure that these actions have not being energy saving, but to be honest, I don't care enough to sacrifice having a warm shower every day.
I suggest that instead of cutting back like this that the hall do more pratical things like, getting lights on timers for the bathrooms and the like.
In terms of the most energy saving thing they could do, get bloody double glazing, the reason why we are all so cold is that the windows are so drafty and rattly!
Quoting o_t4ng from 02:10, 15th Jan 2007
The hot water issue seems to be just A-floor... although I did notice that none of the showers down here got above warm for the last 2 weeks before Christmas...
Quoting lts2 from 21:07, 14th Jan 2007
On the notice board downstairs there are some lovely figures showing that we are using more energy than we have done last year in comparison to every other hall which have all managed to cut back, even if just by a little bit. So what is the problem?
I think its probably due to the way the residence managers (who I assume are responsible for this) are going about 'saving energy'.
Since Christmas the heating has been on less hours and not to mention the bigger issue of the water never being hot on A floor any more. It seems that they have decided to, in an attempt to win this energy saving malarky, cut back on our standard of living in hall.
Unfortunetly, my response personally to this was, one, to complain, and two, to take action like using a mini heater/leaving my PC on 24hours a day to warm up my room and the only way to solve the cold water problem seems to be to run the water for 10 minutes before getting in. I am sure that these actions have not being energy saving, but to be honest, I don't care enough to sacrifice having a warm shower every day.
I suggest that instead of cutting back like this that the hall do more pratical things like, getting lights on timers for the bathrooms and the like.
In terms of the most energy saving thing they could do, get bloody double glazing, the reason why we are all so cold is that the windows are so drafty and rattly!
Quoting o_t4ng from 15:24, 15th Jan 2007
OK, normally I'm pretty restrained and let you lot get on with whatever bickering you've chosen to do for that day... but I gotta step in here...
October, you can't launch personalised attacks like that. Not on my board. I understand some of your argument, but actual name calling is not only immature and mean, but it also contravenes any 'hall spirit' you wish to promote...
So, please, by all means debate, argue if you want... just keep it on topic and leave personal feuds off this board. THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE!
Thanks.
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Quoting lts2 from 17:07, 15th Jan 2007
Aside from Andrew's pointless post it has been interesting to see what everyone else thinks. I suggest that if Andrew has any personal issue with my energy consuption that he come and discuss it with me in person instead of bitching on the sinner about me personally. The sinner is not a forum for personal issues that he has with me. Alex, as mod this is your responsibility to fix I hope that you tell Andrew that this isn't acceptable and that he should stick to the topic of why we are losing the energy competition rather than pathetically calling someone that he can't deal with in person a 'cow' on the internet. It is highly pathetic and unacceptable.
Also Andrew should note that he has no idea how much time I spend in hall, and is actually very little. I am out from 9-5 every day and don't spend any weekends here which I am sure makes my leaving of PC on during the night negliable.
In any case, Jon, what you said about it not being relative is kind of true, they only weight it against the previous year's usage but it is much easier for a hall with double glazing to reduce their energy costs than it is for a place like McIntosh so really it isn't that fair a contest.
Still, good idea to try and make us use less energy its just a shame it isn't working very well. I don't think it has to do with the fact that we aren't trying hard enough, I think its an intrinsic problem with the building.
I spoke to the residence managers about the hot water and it seems that it is a combination of them decreasing the heated water and some fault with the system.
The heating seems to be getting better too, but with 3 windows in my room it only takes 30 minutes after my heating switches off for my rooms to drop to 15C (yes I have a thermometer). This is officially not a habitable temperature so I think its completely acceptable for me to be doing something about that. In any case the heating seems to be a lot better this week even though its much more windy.
I think the underlying problem is that the university ask us to use less energy and yet turning lights/computers off isn't going to make a big difference. Not a lot of people realise what things use the most energy, ie the heating/cookers/hairdyers/kettles. Infact, to boil 10 cups of tea uses about the same amount of energy as if we were to leave all the lights in hall on for 24 hours. So really, the fact that we are losing could purely be due to the fact that we have more tea drinkers than last year, no matter how hard we try to cut down on our own personal energy consumption. What the university really needs to do is look at long term energy consuption reduction. Double glazing would be expensive, yes, and a mission to install, but they have the whole summer and also, they would easily make their money back in a couple of years from the lessened heat we would need. The university don't seems to think long term like this at all (typical example is continuting to build on the North Haugh even though the buildings are not going to be able to last).
Quoting theshark from 18:24, 15th Jan 2007
Secondly, if a certain someone has a problem with a certain someone else, being bitchy and name-calling on the Sinner is only going to make matters worse, either talk it out, or if thats not a possibility, just don't talk to them, it'll just agitate the situation...
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