Fairtrade University!

[the Empress]

So . . you're happy to support child slavery?

Quoting Lid from 17:48, 11th Apr 2006

Quoting Steveo from 17:04, 11th Apr 2006
God I love Nestlé.

Agreed. Nothing makes me feel warmer inside than a good toffee crisp.

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[exnihilo]

Ooh, chestnuts! My favourite!

[jequirity]

Child Slavery? Nestle have improved, don't keep flogging a dead horse mate. I think that the status of "Fairtrade Uni" reflects more on the effort people have put in to encouraging and promoting the sales of fairtrade. I don't agree with fairtrade but i can still reconize that a lot of people have put in great effort and determination for this.

Toffee Crisps are sweet though, and nestle makes some fine sweets. Just cause u eat a chocolate bar doesn't mean u support child slavery though.

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Andrew W K Day 9th of May

[the Empress]

Um, it's an old issue, not a dead issue. While there is an initiative running with Cadbury-Schweppes to 'deal' with it, there's also the problem of children taken out of/prevented from attending schools by poor families for cocoa production. It's a problem not just with cocoa but also palm oil in the chocolate.

[edit] the 'I love Nestle' and 'ooh I get glowy feeling' annoyed me. Nestle's unethical behaviour (relating to many issues) is hardly inducive of a 'glow'.

[duckgirl]

Clearly you dont agree with the principles of fairtrade otherwise you would recognise that the contribution the university makes in terms of sheer numbers is important...all tea and coffee in the halls is fairtrade...that makes a whole lot more fairtrade products being sold in st.andrews than if the halls werent told to use fairtrade.

also its a matter of consumer pressure - the fact that one of the most traditional (and conservative) university has done all the work necesary get fairtrade status gives the message that people care about Trade Justice.
Fairtrade is just one part of the Trade justice movement - and getting rid of the CAP is part of the trade justice campaign.
We are thinking of starting a Trade Justice campaign, if you would like to join feel free to email gr43 and i can sign you right up.

And yeah boycotting french goods would rock...when do you wanna start? Its not quite as easy, as 'oooh i have an idea...', you actually have to do it, and getting Fairtrade Status is something we have done. What have you done?

Quoting puzzled from 17:01, 11th Apr 2006

So we've changed our choice of tea and biscuits, then announced that we've done so, and promised to change our choice of cake when we can.

Pathetic.

For once I'd like to see these 'student activists' campaigning for something that would make a real difference to the 3rd world, like abolishing EU trade barriers.

How about a university boycott of french goods whilst their government continues to defend CAP. The abolition of which would do more at a stroke then fair trade will ever do.
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[duckgirl]

hmmn the quote thing didnt quite work...ah well im sure you get the picture

[username]

Quoting munchingfoo from 15:14, 11th Apr 2006
Damn I hate the internet.

Either

A) You didn't get the very obvious humour in my post

or

B) I am now not getting the obvious reverse humour in your post

:S

I think we should start using humour tags

B

[munchingfoo]

Sweet

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

[sweet]

Quoting munchingfoo from 19:43, 11th Apr 2006
Sweet

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

Yes?

[flarewearer]

How does the fairtrade university propose to supply fairtrade versions of products such as Irn Bru, Tennents Lager and water?

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[Bonnie]

Considering the Union's been mostly fair trade for years, it's really just that fair trade tea and coffee will be offered at University meetings that will be different.

Quoting Dave the Explosive Newt from 16:35, 11th Apr 2006

Quoting Harry Giles from 15:17, 11th Apr 2006

Out of interest, what is this fairtrade steering group? I haven't heard about it.

My SRC Environment & Ethics Committee took on that role.

http://www.yourunion.net/main/represent ... tees/eande

So, in real terms, what changes shall we be seeing to our university experience?

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Mmmm, cake.

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[duckgirl]

and the halls
and the commitment to fairtrade
and the all the official meetings
in all the departments
and general raising awarness

Quoting Bonnie from 21:18, 11th Apr 2006
Considering the Union's been mostly fair trade for years, it's really just that fair trade tea and coffee will be offered at University meetings that will be different.

Quoting Dave the Explosive Newt from 16:35, 11th Apr 2006

Quoting Harry Giles from 15:17, 11th Apr 2006
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Out of interest, what is this fairtrade steering group? I haven't heard about it.

My SRC Environment & Ethics Committee took on that role.

http://www.yourunion.net/main/represent ... tees/eande

So, in real terms, what changes shall we be seeing to our university experience?

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[Dave the Explosive Newt]

Will hall meals now use fair trade ingredients (instead of grade F reclaimed meat by-product: now with extra testicles)

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Mmmm, cake.

[Haunted]

Is there such thing as fair trade meat?

[Dickie]

Quoting Bonnie from 21:18, 11th Apr 2006
Considering the Union's been mostly fair trade for years

Is that just tea and coffee or do we go the whole gammit and when ever the is a Fairtrade option it is used i.e. rice, rum, honey, herbs&spices, jams and of course wine?
I would like to know the precentage of Fairtrade in Beatons and Offsales, anyone have a clue?
Are the University and Union using Fairtrade wine for all receptions and dinners?


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[David Bean]

Quoting puzzled from 17:01, 11th Apr 2006
For once I'd like to see these 'student activists' campaigning for something that would make a real difference to the 3rd world, like abolishing EU trade barriers.

How about a university boycott of french goods whilst their government continues to defend CAP. The abolition of which would do more at a stroke then fair trade will ever do.

Did you read my post on the 'infrastructure pineapples' thread (or was it the other one about Fairtrade?)? Because that's exactly what I said! Either way, I suspect great minds think alike

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[David Bean]

Hey, reading the thread down a bit further, would you guys seriously be up for a boycott of French goods based on their government's support for the CAP? 'Cause I'd LOVE to get the ball rolling on that one!

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[flarewearer]

Is Beaton's milk fairtrade? I for one think our dairy farmers are deserving of a few extra pence on a litre of milk, I take it the fairtrade campaign is fighting to ensure local sourcing of products that can be locally sourced and that the farmers are paid a fair price?

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[munchingfoo]

Quoting sweet from 19:46, 11th Apr 2006

Quoting munchingfoo from 19:43, 11th Apr 2006
Sweet

Yes?

Grr, I hate internet names too

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

[Bonnie]

errrr, Fairtrade is about third world suppliers... so unless you're saying Scotland should be considered a third world country, then...no.

Quoting flarewearer from 23:27, 11th Apr 2006
Is Beaton's milk fairtrade? I for one think our dairy farmers are deserving of a few extra pence on a litre of milk, I take it the fairtrade campaign is fighting to ensure local sourcing of products that can be locally sourced and that the farmers are paid a fair price?

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