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[Midget]

I know who you are Lodestone. And where you live. But your quite safe, disposing of you would severely diminish the number of lefties who post.

Nobody's mentioned the BAY ball in a while on this thread. It was awesome and free.

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[David Bean]

Quoting Lodestone from 13:26, 10th May 2006
Just to clarify, does anyone not know who I am?

You're a self-confessed wanker, for a start - and you made inappropriate comments about my friend's cleavage!

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Well if your friend will have inappropriate cleavage, what do you expect?

[Lodestone]

Quoting dunqn from 18:06, 10th May 2006
I've never heard anyone think out loud with such volume.

O-ho-ho!

[duckgirl]

I did! And so did Lodestone
the Bay Ball was awesome....we should so have numerous Bay balls throughtout the year

Quoting Midget from 15:46, 10th May 2006
I know who you are Lodestone. And where you live. But your quite safe, disposing of you would severely diminish the number of lefties who post.

Nobody's mentioned the BAY ball in a while on this thread. It was awesome and free.

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[Midget]

Quoting duckgirl from 00:42, 11th May 2006
the Bay Ball was awesome....we should so have numerous Bay balls throughtout the year

duckgirl is awesome, you are right, i think we should have some impromptu ones once I've finished my dissertation.

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Quoting duckgirl from 00:42, 11th May 2006
I did! And so did Lodestone
the Bay Ball was awesome....we should so have numerous Bay balls throughtout the year

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I would never go to a Bay Ball, it's full of pretentious wankers who think they are gods of St Andrews.

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[The chap]

This is really pathetic. Any ball, like any social gathering, is always going to hit or miss. It's either a good evening or it's not. The May Ball certainly can't be accused of being a bad evening due to lack of effort on the part of the K.K. And they do it in the name of charity(local charities as far as I know).
As for value for money, £70 for a charity ball is great value for money- booze, food and transport, that's not bad at all. As someone already pointed out when you go to, particularly charity, balls later in life they will be more expensive and have varying degrees of value.
Now, the thorny issue of crepe queues...give it a rest, that's really scrapping the barrel.
All those people who proudly went to the Bay Ball and tell everybody how righteous and cool they are to have avoided the K.K event give yourselves a pat on the back for all the money your snubbing raised for local charities. Well done!

[Clonion]

Quoting The Chap from 10:28, 12th May 2006
This is really pathetic. Any ball, like any social gathering, is always going to hit or miss. It's either a good evening or it's not. The May Ball certainly can't be accused of being a bad evening due to lack of effort on the part of the K.K. And they do it in the name of charity(local charities as far as I know).
As for value for money, £70 for a charity ball is great value for money- booze, food and transport, that's not bad at all. As someone already pointed out when you go to, particularly charity, balls later in life they will be more expensive and have varying degrees of value.
Now, the thorny issue of crepe queues...give it a rest, that's really scrapping the barrel.
All those people who proudly went to the Bay Ball and tell everybody how righteous and cool they are to have avoided the K.K event give yourselves a pat on the back for all the money your snubbing raised for local charities. Well done!

Or alternatively, if you can't actually afford to go to the May Ball, how about having fun with friends, and then doing something yourself to raise money. It's very easy to raise £70+ on a street collection with the Charities campaign. They have a mixture of national and local charities. Much more of the money will go to the charity - how much of £70 does? The accounting is transparent with the Charities Campaign. Also, improves town-gown relations, and brings good publicity when students without a particular stigma attached to them (for the sake of argument I'm not saying here there is anything wrong with the KK, just that they are often perceived as being elite, which is a stigma in itself) can give up time and a lie-in to raise money for charity.

I know which way I'd prefer to give money to charity. If I can't afford it, then give my time, and get a helluva lot more than I could ever afford.

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[DrAlex]

Quoting The Chap from 10:28, 12th May 2006
The May Ball certainly can't be accused of being a bad evening due to lack of effort on the part of the K.K. And they do it in the name of charity(local charities as far as I know).

This is the crux of the issue. It's not your friend's birthday party, it's not your girlfriend's horrible attempt to cook dinner, but God bless 'er she's trying! This is them providing a service, and you either paying for it, or not. It's economics, and it's business. If you didn't have fun, it's a bad evening, irregardless [that was a joke in case someone has the gall to correct it] of how much effort was put in, or what efforts it claims to have championed. Anyone who disagrees can answer me this question: Were the KK members working, or partying?

Hindsight: I read what you said again, and granted my response isn't wholly accurate because of a misunderstanding on my part. However, with regards to the thread as a whole, I feel this is still relevant in a "if you don't like it, stop whining and protesting, just don't go" kind of way.

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[duckgirl]

I don't think people are moaning about the May Ball as such, they are saying they don't like the KK because of what they stand for (or at least that's what I'm saying) - my flatmate went to the May Ball and had a good time, so that's great. But it's what the KK stand for that I disagree with.

Quoting DrAlex from 11:34, 12th May 2006

Quoting The Chap from 10:28, 12th May 2006
The May Ball certainly can't be accused of being a bad evening due to lack of effort on the part of the K.K. And they do it in the name of charity(local charities as far as I know).

This is the crux of the issue. It's not your friend's birthday party, it's not your girlfriend's horrible attempt to cook dinner, but God bless 'er she's trying! This is them providing a service, and you either paying for it, or not. It's economics, and it's business. If you didn't have fun, it's a bad evening, irregardless [that was a joke in case someone has the gall to correct it] of how much effort was put in, or what efforts it claims to have championed. Anyone who disagrees can answer me this question: Were the KK members working, or partying?

Hindsight: I read what you said again, and granted my response isn't wholly accurate because of a misunderstanding on my part. However, with regards to the thread as a whole, I feel this is still relevant in a "if you don't like it, stop whining and protesting, just don't go" kind of way.

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[ARTooD2]

I liked the may ball...so there


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[Steveo]

You disagree with what the KK stand for?

What do they stand for? Aside from having their own private club, and no doubt having a good time doing it.

In what way, shape or form is any of their actions your business? What reason do you have to judge a bunch of guys who form their own club?

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Set your goals way too high so I can laugh when you fail.

[munchingfoo]

Steve - once again - please don't give duckgirl ammunition. The KKK was/is a group of guys forming their own club - what reason do we have to judge their actions?

Her point is stupid - but your stupid comebacks are making her side seem better.

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[flarewearer]

Quoting munchingfoo from 14:37, 12th May 2006
Steve - once again - please don't give duckgirl ammunition. The KKK was/is a group of guys forming their own club - what reason do we have to judge their actions?

Her point is stupid - but your stupid comebacks are making her side seem better.

I'm confused, when did the KKK come back into this? Also, I don't see anything particularyly stupid in what Steve said, indeed you basically reiterrated his sentimonies yourself.

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[duckgirl]

how is my point stupid?
Expressing a point of view is stupid now? Are you saying you never judge peoples actions - interesting theory but I doubt it really works...

Quoting munchingfoo from 14:37, 12th May 2006
Steve - once again - please don't give duckgirl ammunition. The KKK was/is a group of guys forming their own club - what reason do we have to judge their actions?

Her point is stupid - but your stupid comebacks are making her side seem better.

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[Al]

Quoting flarewearer from 14:56, 12th May 2006

Quoting munchingfoo from 14:37, 12th May 2006
Steve - once again - please don't give duckgirl ammunition. The KKK was/is a group of guys forming their own club - what reason do we have to judge their actions?

Her point is stupid - but your stupid comebacks are making her side seem better.

I'm confused, when did the KKK come back into this? Also, I don't see anything particularyly stupid in what Steve said, indeed you basically reiterrated his sentimonies yourself.

I believe he was alluding to the idea that the KKK could be seen as a club which gave a lot of reasons for people judging its actions. That said, I agree with you that there was nothing stupid in what Steve said.

I have criticised the actions of the KK a great deal in the past. However, that was in the past. They have made significant alterations to the way they operate such things as the procession. The situation is not perfect but it is probably the best it will ever be. What is fairly certain is that the KK will never be anything other than an all male club.

[ShinyHappyPerson]

Quoting Steveo from 14:04, 12th May 2006
You disagree with what the KK stand for?

What do they stand for? Aside from having their own private club, and no doubt having a good time doing it.

In what way, shape or form is any of their actions your business? What reason do you have to judge a bunch of guys who form their own club?

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...which would be entirely fine if it wasn't for the fact that this University puts them on a pedestal. This University pays a hell of a lot more attention to them than they do to any affiliated society.

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Quoting shinyhappyperson from 23:13, 12th May 2006
...which would be entirely fine if it wasn't for the fact that this University puts them on a pedestal. This University pays a hell of a lot more attention to them than they do to any affiliated society.

That's because the KK does more for the University's image than any affiliated society. You think the Uni is going to throw OneWorld on a pedestal, the one society which is the University's biggest critic? Or debates, which for all its 'tradition' can't get away from its reputation as a house of drunks? Fact is, folks, the procession is long-standing tradition and the charity work is good press--- no matter how you slice it. No affiliated society can claim to do both of those things.

[Midget]

Quoting from 14:12, 13th May 2006
Or debates, which for all its 'tradition' can't get away from its reputation as a house of drunks?

Better having a reputation for excess in a legal substance.


Lots of societies contribute positively to the Uni's image in lots of different ways I don't see how you can single out one and say it is the best for the Uni.

Debates asides from getting drunk does tour the world and not to mention Scottish schools and brings people like Alex Salmond to St Andrews. And thats just one society, I could go into other (inclusive) societies that I've been involved with who have done lots but don't have the time.

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