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Postby Super Jock on Tue May 13, 2008 10:56 pm

I am sometimes very frustrated at the way our university seems to care more about it's image than of it's students, but at least we're not this bad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7399059.stm
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Postby Tweedle-Dum on Tue May 13, 2008 11:07 pm

Well, you say that, you clearly didn't get the e-mail from the Students' Association last year advocating this very thing.

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Postby Tweedle-Dum on Tue May 13, 2008 11:07 pm

Well, you say that, you clearly didn't get the e-mail from the Students' Association last year advocating this very thing.

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Postby Haunted on Tue May 13, 2008 11:15 pm

Yeah I too remember being told how to fill in my form with the very same threat of blah blah your degree will be worthless.

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Postby Thackary on Wed May 14, 2008 12:20 am

It's not really a threat - merely pointing out that if the University is portrayed in a bad light, people will think less of it.

Some might even call it 'stating the obvious'.

If employers see that your degree is from a university at the top of the league tables (or high up in a survey), they're going to perceive it as having a higher value.

Degrees from St Andrews are earned; there's no question of that; but for them to seem better, better big up the uni when filling out your survey.

If you think the Uni is lacking in any particular area, write to the University and tell them how they can improve.

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Postby Super Jock on Wed May 14, 2008 7:47 am

what like cheap accommodation. They are soo listening to us there. ;:\
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Postby RandomMusings on Wed May 14, 2008 8:01 am

Quoting Super Jock from 08:47, 14th May 2008
what like cheap accommodation. They are soo listening to us there. ;:\


Accommodation is a very significant issue. The Association and the SRC Accommodation Committee, of which I am chair, will not give up on the issue even if our requests get rejected 100 times.
However, it is unrealistic in the current economic climate to expect the university to grant us extra cheap accommodation at the click of a finger - especially when the University does not have much spare funding with so much money tied up in redevelopment projects.
Hopefully things will change for the better, but don't expect miricles immediately.

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Postby Super Jock on Wed May 14, 2008 8:25 am

Comments from the University like "we'll privatise if you protest" are bullshit. Or comments on the courier was it? that a wish for lower accommodation is a view point held only by 1% of st andrews. I like my department, but St Andrews University is full of crap. I was at "discussions" where they presented the options and said pick one. Most people (I grant not all) said they just NEED the cheapest. Yet they picked the most expensive, mini DRA, which students don't like.
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Postby Super Jock on Wed May 14, 2008 8:28 am

What I'm trying to say, is I respect the amount of effort some of the students are putting into keeping university fair, but I don't believe the comments without evidence from this University that it's too expensive to build cheap accommodation. Only the expensive option is available.
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Postby Ewan Husami on Wed May 14, 2008 8:33 am

Have you tried building accommodation to conform with building regulations, HMO regulations etc?

It's anything but cheap.
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Postby MJC on Wed May 14, 2008 9:03 am

Quoting RandomMusings from 09:01, 14th May 2008
Quoting Super Jock from 08:47, 14th May 2008
what like cheap accommodation. They are soo listening to us there. ;:\


Accommodation is a very significant issue. The Association and the SRC Accommodation Committee, of which I am chair, will not give up on the issue even if our requests get rejected 100 times.
However, it is unrealistic in the current economic climate to expect the university to grant us extra cheap accommodation at the click of a finger - especially when the University does not have much spare funding with so much money tied up in redevelopment projects.
Hopefully things will change for the better, but don't expect *miricles* immediately.

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Postby purringpickles on Wed May 14, 2008 9:35 am

Quoting ewan husami from 09:33, 14th May 2008
Have you tried building accommodation to conform with building regulations, HMO regulations etc?

It's anything but cheap.


Have YOU tried?
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Postby MJC on Wed May 14, 2008 9:52 am

Quoting purringpickles from 10:35, 14th May 2008
Quoting ewan husami from 09:33, 14th May 2008
Have you tried building accommodation to conform with building regulations, HMO regulations etc?

It's anything but cheap.


Have YOU tried?


When talking about the cost of building accommodation 'cheap' has to be a relative term. Having lived in David Russell for two I cannot imagine that they were particularly expensive to build, for what they are. It was quite evident that they had been built with the cheapest materials, for example there was nothing seperating the bedrooms except for plasterboard.
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Postby Bizarre Atheist on Wed May 14, 2008 9:59 am

Quoting purringpickles from 10:35, 14th May 2008
Quoting ewan husami from 09:33, 14th May 2008
Have you tried building accommodation to conform with building regulations, HMO regulations etc?

It's anything but cheap.


Have YOU tried?


I tried yesterday. It was very difficult. And expensive!

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Postby Jono on Wed May 14, 2008 10:11 am

Quoting Super Jock from 09:25, 14th May 2008
Comments from the University like "we'll privatise if you protest" are bullshit. Or comments on the courier was it? that a wish for lower accommodation is a view point held only by 1% of st andrews. I like my department, but St Andrews University is full of crap. I was at "discussions" where they presented the options and said pick one. Most people (I grant not all) said they just NEED the cheapest. Yet they picked the most expensive, mini DRA, which students don't like.


Well, seeing as they didn't actually say that at any point! It just so happens there are voices in the wings who are raising the possibility. Most would call it coincidental.

But then I suppose drawing thee two issues together makes for good press statements.

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Postby Haunted on Wed May 14, 2008 10:14 am

Fifepark seems to be within the building regulations, it looks pretty cheap?

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Postby Super Jock on Wed May 14, 2008 10:37 am

Fife Park isn't anymore. But all they need to do to make it into regulations is to only have 5 people live in them instead of 6. That seems to me like a cheap option.

It's gutting though my sister lives in a really fancy large private flat in the centre of stirling and she pays less per month than me in St Andrews.
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Postby RandomMusings on Wed May 14, 2008 10:44 am

Quoting MJC from 10:03, 14th May 2008
Quoting RandomMusings from 09:01, 14th May 2008
Quoting Super Jock from 08:47, 14th May 2008
what like cheap accommodation. They are soo listening to us there. ;:\


Accommodation is a very significant issue. The Association and the SRC Accommodation Committee, of which I am chair, will not give up on the issue even if our requests get rejected 100 times.
However, it is unrealistic in the current economic climate to expect the university to grant us extra cheap accommodation at the click of a finger - especially when the University does not have much spare funding with so much money tied up in redevelopment projects.
Hopefully things will change for the better, but don't expect *miricles* immediately.

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Thanks MJC....

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Postby Old Hand on Thu May 15, 2008 8:34 am

Fife Park was built in the 1970's in the and heavily funder by Fife council. Given that you could by a house in London for £2,000 in the 1970's I don't think that it is a very good comparison for costings.


Quoting Haunted from 11:14, 14th May 2008
Fifepark seems to be within the building regulations, it looks pretty cheap?

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Postby Old Hand on Thu May 15, 2008 8:34 am

If that happened that would have been the Students' Association not the university. The decision to send that email would have been made by students' representatives, perhaps patronising but nothing more.


Quoting Tweedle-Dum from 00:07, 14th May 2008
Well, you say that, you clearly didn't get the e-mail from the Students' Association last year advocating this very thing.

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