Time for a NEW RECTOR

[Mr Comedy]

Quoting threekings from 13:08, 28th Feb 2008
DMC, DMM OR DMA WILL ALL DO IT.......they will really sort the bop out as well

You've got my vote fellas. When is the next threekings update coming out? I've missed those recently.

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"I am in no way interested in immortality, but only in the taste of tea. " -Lu Tung

[Frank]

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"There is only ever one truth. Things are always black or white, there's no such thing as a shade of grey. If you think that something is a shade of grey it simply means that you don't fully understand the situation. The truth is narrow and the path of the pursuit of truth is similarly narrow."
Also, some years later:
"here we are arguing about a few uppity troublemakers with a bee in their bonnet and a conspiracy theory."

[David Bean]

Beeny: I know, I was with exnihillo on Gordon Ramsay the last time at the start, gathering signatures and trying to plan a campaign, but the problem is he just didn't seem interested during the election period. I'm not saying he wasn't interested, and I know he was busy at the time, but seriously, not even a statement in support of his campaign during the whole election period, public or private? That's why I switched sides on Thursday night, and it's why I'm glad Simon eventually won.

Exnihillo: on Jack Vettriano, his principal qualities would be that he has shown interest in St Andrews University in the past, and willingness to support it, and he has a close connection to the local area. I should have thought those are two strong positives in comparison to many of the names that get thrown about just because they belong to people who happen to be famous.

But let me reiterate, Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall - despite having unfairly slighted my employer in a recent television programme - is exactly the sort of chap we need - well-known, activist, shares the concerns of many students, and offers a real opportunity to make a difference to our hall meals and other catering, specifically around animal welfare, an issue I've always cared deeply about. I prefer him to Jamie Oliver because I was always a huge fan of the River Cottage series for its emphasis on farm-to-fork and local sourcing of food, but I'd be quite happy if the latter accepted too, because their qualities relative to this job are similar.

Come on, someone has to agree with me, surely?

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[exnihilo]

I'd be surprised. And, be fair, David, your support for Gordon Ramsay was lukewarm at best, you couldn't even get 20 names on the form!


How about Duncan Bannatyne? I'm perfectly happy to ask him, but obviously someone in St Andrews would need to run his campaign. I'd imagine AU people might be quite keen...

[beeny]

2 words:

Alan. Davies

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'But what do I know? I'm a bear; I suck the heads off fish.'

[Thackary]

Quoting David Bean from 01:05, 1st Mar 2008
But let me reiterate, Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall - despite having unfairly slighted my employer in a recent television programme

There was no slight. The criticism of the Co-Op was entirely justified. Labelling barn chickens (who never saw daylight) with pictures of fields and sunshine was completely misleading. When approached, the Co-Op agreed to look towards rebranding. What's unfair about that?

[jequirity]

Chuck Norris or the Stig obviously

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LEEERRRROYYYY!!!!

Andrew W K Day 9th of May

[David Bean]

Exnihillo: what do you expect? I was a sabb at the time, with a full-time job and a presumption of neutrality!

Thackary: I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The Elmwood chicken standards (which now apply to all of our fresh chickens, and shortly will to all chicken portions too) exceed the legal welfare requirements in many ways, which include more space, natural daylight and ventilation, and - which I think the label was meant to indicate - a natural diet of cereals without the use of growth promoters. My principal objection, however, was to the misleading claim at the start that PR had forbidden him from entering the store: in fact he and the crew had visited it on several occasions prior to that day. You forget that this is the area of the Co-operative that I work in; I'd hardly say it was misleading if I didn't know it to be true. We are the authorities on animal welfare, and it was wrng of him to mislead people into thinking otherwise. Those Elmwood birds are great chickens. I'd eat them - and I'd feed them to my children.

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Psalm 91:7

[Dickie]

Quoting David Bean from 20:25, 1st Mar 2008
and I'd feed them to my children.

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Please tell me you have not bred, think of Darwin.



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http://facebook.com/p.php?id=37106107&l=217e435e0a

[David Bean]

Nope, merely channelling John Gummer.

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Psalm 91:7

[Why not?]

Donald Trump / Alan Sugar
"Principal I disagree, your fired"

[Guest]

Quoting exnihilo from 11:59, 1st Mar 2008
How about Duncan Bannatyne? I'm perfectly happy to ask him, but obviously someone in St Andrews would need to run his campaign. I'd imagine AU people might be quite keen...

Thats an excellent idea. He seems to be a very straight and fair man who wouldn't let the university bullshit him.

[Anonymous]

Quoting David Bean from 20:25, 1st Mar 2008
Thackary: I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The Elmwood chicken standards (which now apply to all of our fresh chickens, and shortly will to all chicken portions too) exceed the legal welfare requirements in many ways, which include more space, natural daylight and ventilation, and - which I think the label was meant to indicate - a natural diet of cereals without the use of growth promoters. My principal objection, however, was to the misleading claim at the start that PR had forbidden him from entering the store: in fact he and the crew had visited it on several occasions prior to that day. You forget that this is the area of the Co-operative that I work in; I'd hardly say it was misleading if I didn't know it to be true. We are the authorities on animal welfare, and it was wrng of him to mislead people into thinking otherwise. Those Elmwood birds are great chickens. I'd eat them - and I'd feed them to my children.

We are the authorities on animal welfare. Scientology is the authority on psychiatry. "We are the authority" is the catchphrase of the cult- in this case, the hippie, collectivist left-wing destroyers of all that is good in the world, which Bean is clearly a member of.

I just want to take this opportunity to have a go at this nonsense head-on. one thing I could never understand: who cares whether a chicken is a barn chicken or a free range chicken? It has the brain the size of a pencil eraser and keeps running around even when you cut its head off- i.e., The animal has the cognitive abilities of a bowl of rice. And, it's dead. In a final act of supreme brutality, the chicken was cut down by human hands (or by machine? I don't know how it works) feathered, gutted and cleaned, and packaged in plastic. We also harvest their offspring. It sounds like something out of a science fiction film, and if that's not inhumane, I don't know what is. And it all happens irrespective of whether or not you give them "a natural diet of cereal without growth promoters". Or "natural daylight." The guy who has to spend an extra 50p per kilo on the chicken and works the night shift security at IKEA to put food on the table for his three kids doesn't see much natural daylight, does he? Should he pay so the chicken can get the daylight he's denied?

Free range chicken is the biggest and most expensive mental crutch around today. You essentially force producers to make chicken 200% more expensive by insisting that it's all free range, that they get to run in a field and play XBOX all day. But what it all boils down to is that people want to feel good about the fact that they're eating dead animals, so you say, "it's free range! another 10 quid please," and they just assume that the animals climb into the box and self-package for the end user.

Go all out vegetarian or else be the most efficient carnivore you can be- that's what I say. Otherwise, it's just hypocrisy, and nobody likes that. Not much of a job either.

Don't worry- a good recession will put this expensive free range nonsense to bed once and for all.

I will support the candidate who, in the election next November, has the bojangles (i.e. not Simon Pepper) to tell the hippie set that this "free range chicken/egg" crap, and ethical investment stuff is complete nonsense. So is "green electricity." It's all a scam-

IT'S ALL A VERY CLEVER SCHEME TO CHARGE YOU MORE MONEY and DOESN'T HELP THE ENVIRONMENT ONE BIT.

(p.s. anyone who knows how a bank works will know that EI is total nonsense, the bank doesn't actually invest in your companies, they just peg your account to the companies' return while they go off and use your money to buy collateralised mortgage pools in the southern United States. How's that Union EI fund doing, anyway?)

[WashingtonIrving]

The point that you are completely missing is that free range chicken tastes nicer. You really, really can tell the difference between a scrawny battery farmed chicken and a free range one.

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"I said farewell honey, I'll see you Judgment Day"

[Midget]

Quoting Anonymous from 15:15, 2nd Mar 2008

That was one of the most pathetic (and inaccurate) thread-hijack attempts ever. I'm not going to stoop to you level, because you have cowardly hid behind anonymity and also completely misunderstood Bean's post and Bean himself (collectivist, left-wing!).

[Thackary]

Continue the free range debate here:
Main/thesinner/31884

let's go back to the rector discussion...

[Anonymous]

[quote]Quoting washingtonirving from 20:19, 2nd Mar 2008
The point that you are completely missing is that free range chicken tastes nicer. You really, really can tell the difference between a scrawny battery farmed chicken and a free range one.
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Now you're just being facetious.

The point was that there's a Rectorial election coming up, and one of the names bandied about (Whittingstall) and that person's handling of a free range chicken issue is indicative of the fact that in this election, hippie issues which have no relevance whatsoever to a Rectorial election. This is a thread about the election, not about how minimum-security chicken tastes.

Point of the Rector as I see it
1) Make the University a better place for students
2) Make the University a better place for students
3) And the above really entails MOAR MONEYS 4 STOODENTZ!

YA, RLY.

Contrast with the below:

It is not the point of the Rector to:
1) Ensure that chickens in Shitbrickshire get pizza delivery and play PSP every day of their short, meaningless lives
2) Make the university lose money on Ethical Investments
3) Make the university spend a ton of money on green electricity

In that sense, I'd argue that Simon Pepper has been a fairly bad Rector. In fact, he's an abominable Rector. He hasn't accomplished anything that actually benefits the students- we elected a purple blazer and environmental credentials.

This year I'd like to see a rector whose first and only concern is student welfare.

Rather than animal welfare.

[Guest]

you are such a cunt mate

Quoting Anonymous from 15:15, 2nd Mar 2008

Quoting David Bean from 20:25, 1st Mar 2008
Thackary: I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The Elmwood chicken standards (which now apply to all of our fresh chickens, and shortly will to all chicken portions too) exceed the legal welfare requirements in many ways, which include more space, natural daylight and ventilation, and - which I think the label was meant to indicate - a natural diet of cereals without the use of growth promoters. My principal objection, however, was to the misleading claim at the start that PR had forbidden him from entering the store: in fact he and the crew had visited it on several occasions prior to that day. You forget that this is the area of the Co-operative that I work in; I'd hardly say it was misleading if I didn't know it to be true. We are the authorities on animal welfare, and it was wrng of him to mislead people into thinking otherwise. Those Elmwood birds are great chickens. I'd eat them - and I'd feed them to my children.

We are the authorities on animal welfare. Scientology is the authority on psychiatry. "We are the authority" is the catchphrase of the cult- in this case, the hippie, collectivist left-wing destroyers of all that is good in the world, which Bean is clearly a member of.

I just want to take this opportunity to have a go at this nonsense head-on. one thing I could never understand: who cares whether a chicken is a barn chicken or a free range chicken? It has the brain the size of a pencil eraser and keeps running around even when you cut its head off- i.e., The animal has the cognitive abilities of a bowl of rice. And, it's dead. In a final act of supreme brutality, the chicken was cut down by human hands (or by machine? I don't know how it works) feathered, gutted and cleaned, and packaged in plastic. We also harvest their offspring. It sounds like something out of a science fiction film, and if that's not inhumane, I don't know what is. And it all happens irrespective of whether or not you give them "a natural diet of cereal without growth promoters". Or "natural daylight." The guy who has to spend an extra 50p per kilo on the chicken and works the night shift security at IKEA to put food on the table for his three kids doesn't see much natural daylight, does he? Should he pay so the chicken can get the daylight he's denied?

Free range chicken is the biggest and most expensive mental crutch around today. You essentially force producers to make chicken 200% more expensive by insisting that it's all free range, that they get to run in a field and play XBOX all day. But what it all boils down to is that people want to feel good about the fact that they're eating dead animals, so you say, "it's free range! another 10 quid please," and they just assume that the animals climb into the box and self-package for the end user.

Go all out vegetarian or else be the most efficient carnivore you can be- that's what I say. Otherwise, it's just hypocrisy, and nobody likes that. Not much of a job either.

Don't worry- a good recession will put this expensive free range nonsense to bed once and for all.

I will support the candidate who, in the election next November, has the bojangles (i.e. not Simon Pepper) to tell the hippie set that this "free range chicken/egg" crap, and ethical investment stuff is complete nonsense. So is "green electricity." It's all a scam-

IT'S ALL A VERY CLEVER SCHEME TO CHARGE YOU MORE MONEY and DOESN'T HELP THE ENVIRONMENT ONE BIT.

(p.s. anyone who knows how a bank works will know that EI is total nonsense, the bank doesn't actually invest in your companies, they just peg your account to the companies' return while they go off and use your money to buy collateralised mortgage pools in the southern United States. How's that Union EI fund doing, anyway?)

[David Bean]

Quoting Anonymous from 15:15, 2nd Mar 2008

We are the authorities on animal welfare. Scientology is the authority on psychiatry. "We are the authority" is the catchphrase of the cult- in this case, the hippie, collectivist left-wing destroyers of all that is good in the world, which Bean is clearly a member of.

It was a joke, dumbass. Glad you got the ref, but such a pity you hadn't the wit to take it for what it was. And my word, that must be the first time I've ever been called a hippy, collectivist or left-winger! Funny kind of Conservative Party we must be running here in Manchester to put me on its Executive, eh?

I just want to take this opportunity to have a go at this nonsense head-on. one thing I could never understand: who cares whether a chicken is a barn chicken or a free range chicken? It has the brain the size of a pencil eraser and keeps running around even when you cut its head off- i.e., The animal has the cognitive abilities of a bowl of rice.

And evidently it's in good company!

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[Guest]

How about the Rt Hon Ann Widdecombe MP - she would be AMAZING