Sick, sick, sick, in Dundee

[Rilla]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tay ... 265346.stm

I hate to sound all Daily Mail-ish, but really - what kind of people would do this?

Police are examining CCTV footage in a bid to trace the people responsible for an attack on animals during a break-in at a wildlife park in Dundee.

A deer was slashed with a craft knife and a terrapin died after it had its eyes poked out during the incident at Camperdown Wildlife Centre.

Keepers discovered the wounded and shocked animals when they arrived for work on Tuesday morning.

They said a female snowy owl was so shaken she had eaten her own chicks.

Elsewhere otters had been beaten with sticks and other animals were too distressed to be approached by keepers.


We all had the attitude that we are not going to let them beat us and we will carry on as normal looking after the animals to the best of our abilities
Aileen Clarke
Camperdown Wildlife Centre

The break-in was one of a number of security breaches at the premises in the last few months but it is the first time that animals have been physically attacked.

A spokeswoman for Tayside Police said: "These were sickening and despicable attacks on animals.

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Be good to yourself because nobody else has the power to make you happy.

[Timata]

This reminds me of an incident that happened just after I came home, in my area.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/6730079.stm

It is hard to believe people would actually carry out attacks like this for no reason.

[possumnumber3]

Last April, this happened to a number of dogs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6552869.stm
It is still sickening to think about it. Why would anyone do this to an animal?

[Mutley]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/1184154.stm

This was followed by the leader

P..P..P..Pick up a Penguin by a local paper!

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So how is life, love and the endless pursuit of happiness?

[kats]

These articles make me so furious - what is wrong with people?!??!!? Seriously - I can just about forgive every crime except cruelity to animals and children - there is just no midway with those - im absolutely disgusted

[munchingfoo]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/6272966.stm

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

[rob 'f*ck off' wine boy]

Jolly good. They used to tie fireworks to cats down my way, though I think that practise has died out after people threatened to do the same to the culprits.

Hurrah for humanity! We're ace!

[Steveo]

Quoting kats from 12:42, 5th Jul 2007
These articles make me so furious - what is wrong with people?!??!!? Seriously - I can just about forgive every crime except cruelity to animals and children - there is just no midway with those - im absolutely disgusted

You can forgive rape? You can forgive the murder of an innocent man? You can forgive Maxwell-scale fraud that destroyed families? And so on, and so on.

It's these sorts of messed up priorities that lead to animal demonstrators having more regard for animal than human life. It's these messed up priorities that lead to a justice system that favours the perpitrator over the victim. It's touchy feely.

I'm sorry to have to say this, but worse things happen at sea. Yes, it's a mild tragedy that this happened, and it is a sad reflection on the state of some people, and perhaps society in general. However, there are much worse things, and to say that animal cruelty is worse than rape, murder and a whole host of other offences is just wrong.

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Get off my internet.

[flossy]

Ah but Steveo, isn't there a proven link between children/young people who torture animals and these people going on to harm other human beings? It's not just the cruelty but the enjoyment derived from it that shows problems in the future.

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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the substrate.

[Steveo]

Quoting flossy from 18:16, 5th Jul 2007
Ah but Steveo, isn't there a proven link between children/young people who torture animals and these people going on to harm other human beings? It's not just the cruelty but the enjoyment derived from it that shows problems in the future.

There's also a proven link between 15 year old thieves and 35 year old theves.

What I'm saying is, to say that crimes against children and animals are the only unforgivable ones is just plain idiotic. I also doubt many victims of crime feel that it's forgivable either.

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Get off my internet.

[David Bean]

Quoting mutley from 09:33, 5th Jul 2007
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/1184154.stm

there was a suspicion that the vandals may have been drinking or even on drugs.

No shit!

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Psalm 91:7

[Frank]

I do roughly concur with Steveo there (and David 'Sherlock' Bean). Very sick and disgustng...but there are worse things in the world.

It really does disgust me though, as it's alot more common than it really ought to be. I mean: Everyone's heard of a friend/acquaintance of a friend/acquaintance who's 'crucified a rabbit' or 'put a hamster in a microwave' or 'stapped a cat to a firework'...and people laugh. But it's...yeuch. Not nice...

I wonder if the problem is me?

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"There is only ever one truth. Things are always black or white, there's no such thing as a shade of grey. If you think that something is a shade of grey it simply means that you don't fully understand the situation. The truth is narrow and the path of the pursuit of truth is similarly narrow."

[KateBush]

I don't think Steveo is right in saying it's a mild tragedy. As some other poster stated, when people are prepared to treat innocent creatures like this, it points towards behaviour which could be dangerous for other people arround the perpetrators, both now and later.

I think HIS attitude is what allows bastards like these to get away with community service instead of custodial sentences. you know what? worse things DO happen at sea, and often it's the result of an escalation of psychopathic behaviour, of the sort suggested by this kind of cruel conduct.

If people took this sort of thing more seriously, and penalised it more heavily, then maybe we could nip those worse things at sea in the bud before they reached that point.

I'm not an animal rights nutter by any means- but I can't stand to see innocent creatures mutilated like this so senselessly. It seems quite fitting to me that the people who are prepared to inflict that on other animals should bloody well have it inflicted on themselves.

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Intelligence can leap the hurdles which nature has set before us- Livy

[Rilla]

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 58565.html
http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh.cfm?id=1039192007

I think the above articles proves that some crimes are quite horrific, but forgiveable.

I agree with some above posters, I really cannot fathom the kind of person who would poke an animal's eye out just for shits and giggles.


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Be good to yourself because nobody else has the power to make you happy.

[McNugget]

I don't understand why people decide to pick on animals. I also don't understand why you would decide to post a video on the internet of yourself taping a hamster to a firework. http://www.bebo.com/FlashBox.jsp?FlashBoxId=3598665132

bloody neds...

[Mehmsy]

Quoting McNugget from 13:10, 6th Jul 2007
I don't understand why people decide to pick on animals. I also don't understand why you would decide to post a video on the internet of yourself taping a hamster to a firework. http://www.bebo.com/FlashBox.jsp?FlashBoxId=3598665132

bloody neds...

That video was posted by this fine contribution to society: http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=2422514078

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http://standrews.facebook.com/profile.php?id=37106593

[kats]

Steveo - there is NOTHING worse than hurting children or animals. They are vulnerable! Of course, murder is awful, but can you honestly tell me that a murder is worse than abuse to a child or an animal?? Im sorry, but I would save an animal or a child's life over someone else any day without hesitation. There is NOTHING more important that a child or an animal. I would risk my own life for either of these.

[novium]

Well, I'd privilege the life of an adult (say you) over the life of an animal (say, a rabbit).

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tamen ira procul absit, cum qua nihil recte fieri, nihil considerate potest.

[Snakes&Ladders]

Quoting kats from 13:59, 6th Jul 2007
Steveo - there is NOTHING worse than hurting children or animals. They are vulnerable! Of course, murder is awful, but can you honestly tell me that a murder is worse than abuse to a child or an animal?? Im sorry, but I would save an animal or a child's life over someone else any day without hesitation. There is NOTHING more important that a child or an animal. I would risk my own life for either of these.

And murder/rape victims aren't vunerable? They aren't innocent? Did they have it coming because they were a little bit older?

[exnihilo]

You'd risk your life to save any animal? Or just cute, furry ones? Would you risk your life for a brown rat? For a cockroach? Where's the line?

Don't be stupid.