Classic Knock Back from the Offy

[Guest]

I have to take my passport out, I don't have any other ID (don't drive, don't want to, don't want to pay the money for a provisional licence, especially if they're going to be refused). What else am I supposed to use? Those "citizen cards" etc are a load of crap.

[McNugget]

When I was 17 I used my passport to get served, it even said I was 17. As one place who actually read the date said, they have to be seen on security cameras to be looking at ID and she then rang my stuff up on the till.
I work in tescos and ID people to amuse myself sometimes, but only people who don't look 18. And only because tesco's has been done for serving underage people within the past year, well thats what the manager's told me anyway.

[flarewearer]

Quoting from 20:43, 17th Oct 2005
Being from Fife anyway, I can say that there is a lot of faking of provisional liscenes going on in the Kingdom, and apparently they are easier to fake.

Why fake the provisional when you could fake the full thing?

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[Smith]

Quoting flarewearer from 16:17, 18th Oct 2005

Quoting from 20:43, 17th Oct 2005
Being from Fife anyway, I can say that there is a lot of faking of provisional liscenes going on in the Kingdom, and apparently they are easier to fake.

Why fake the provisional when you could fake the full thing?

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It must be easier to find stray green plastic lying around than pink stuff....

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[Frank]

I must admit this Fife-wide thing on provisionals is both fortunate and annoying(I'm from Cowdenbeath, near Dunfermline). They were shitty about ID before(Provisional, Passport or Full License, thats it), but now considering my Passport is out of date and I don't have the license, that kinda leaves me up shit creek back home. Fortunately we have St Andrews...haven for all that is still good in the world(Uni Off License, Tescos+Debit Carb and Luvians...)...

[Guest]

Believe it or not, i'm 29 and got stopped for ID in tescos when i was buying a bottle of wine with my 35 year old friend! The guy said as he accepted my drivers license as ID "If i had known you were that old I never would have stopped you (?????!!!!????)"

[Lid]

I'm in the most pissed off mood ever at the moment. Damned Bottoms Up.

I walk into the store, and place a bottle of wine on the counter.

"Have you any ID, squire?", the gentleman asks.

"Why of course", I reply, "I trust my matriculation card will suffice?"

"I'm ever so sorry, sir, matriculation cards aren't accepted here"

"Oh, very well, driving licence it is then"

I produce my driving licence but am stopped in my tracks..

"Don't accept provisionals mate"

"And why on earth not, does that sign that you're leaning over not say "photographic driving licence", as this is"

"They're not quite as, y'know"

"Not quite as what?"

"They're easier to fake"

"Yes, because after all, if I were going to fake a card, I would fake one that proved I wasn't allowed to drive unsupervised"

I then produced my 'ConnexionsCard', something I was given at 6th form and has festered in my wallet ever since. To be honest, it looks very shit, the fake kind of shit. The man strides off into the back room and returns about 3-4 mins later, saying it's fine for the transaction to commence.

I paid him, then walked out shouting "I'll be shopping at Luvians from now on".

I mean, to be honest, it's not like it was a vat of Buckfast, it was a good, rather expensive wine.

Also, my major bugbear still lies with being told that provisional driving licences aren't accepted. Surely if I produce one that is fake, I'm the one committing the criminal offence, as the law states something along the lines of "Oh, it's ok, the blokey behind the counter was suitably deceived" (not to mention the fraud implications).

Thresher Group will be getting a VERY strongly worded letter regarding their policy, pointing out that their anal-ness now means I shalln't be shopping there, but at Luvians, a far superior shop!

Rant over.

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[flarewearer]

I don't get this bollocks that provisionals are "easier to fake", it's a load of nonsense. For ID I have a provisional and my passport. The latter is NOT going to leave the safety of my desk drawer as it just isn't worth losing it. IF any shop were to be so obtuse as to refuse to serve me, i'd take my custom elsewhere and call them a cock or something. Their loss.

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[munchingfoo]

Just do what I have been doing since I was 16 and look like an old bastard - works every time.

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

[paint_idle]

same thing happened to my friends today!
Except one of them had a full drivers license, and they wouldn't serve her...just incase she bought alcohol for the 20 yr old with the provisional!
Surely they'll lose business

[liliputian]

i was rather amused in tesco a few weeks back when Oli got ID'd! I mean - hope stupid do ou have to be to ID a 27 year old?

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[Mohawk]

ah yes, but Oli does look quite young and innocent...

[thePontificator]

Speaking as someone who once worked for Sky, could people please remember it's the company policy rather than the employee's policy, so if you're going to complain, do as some of you have been doing and complain to the company rather than rant at the shop assistant. Also, don't you fucking dare say that they have a choice and could use their better judgement, it's a bloody wine shop, not Auschwitz, and some people like still being in employment at the end of the day more than they like admitting that company policy is stupid and they'll let you have the bottle anyway.

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'I bet you a dubloon that you win that bet.'

[theflirt]

Quoting thePontificator from 20:06, 28th Apr 2006
Speaking as someone who once worked for Sky, could people please remember it's the company policy rather than the employee's policy, so if you're going to complain, do as some of you have been doing and complain to the company rather than rant at the shop assistant. Also, don't you fucking dare say that they have a choice and could use their better judgement, it's a bloody wine shop, not Auschwitz, and some people like still being in employment at the end of the day more than they like admitting that company policy is stupid and they'll let you have the bottle anyway.

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'I bet you a florin that the chap will turn out guilty.'
'I bet you a dubloon that you win that bet.'

Totally agree that it is company policy, but that doesnt mean that they therefore ID EVERYONE that comes into the store since it is company policy.
If THEY think the person wanting to be served is over 21 and don't think they should ID them then THEY don't. If, on the other hand, THEY do believe the person does need to be ID'd then THEY will do....so in theory, it really is their prerogative as to whom they ID!
Although, completely agree that complaining should be to the company.

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Oh pants!

[n01]

the stupid thing is, having an ID from a USA state, they wouldn't have a fucking clue what it's supposed to look like... so how could they spot a fake? they still accept it as ID though.

silly.

[Smith]

Yes, but I don't look under 21, I shouldn't have been ID'd in the first place, and the other staff in there had never asked me for ID.

To refuse a 21 year old student on the grounds of having a green rather than a pink driving liscense but to accept it on some random card that could much easier be faked is a ridiculous policy.

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Cake, and fine wine.

[MrGreedy]

Well at least we won't have this problem when we all get our nice biometric ID cards.

[Lid]

Quoting thePontificator from 20:06, 28th Apr 2006complain to the company rather than rant at the shop assistant.

This is why I said Thresher Group would get a strongly worded letter.

Also, don't you fucking dare say that they have a choice and could use their better judgement, it's a bloody wine shop

Well, before the profanities fly, maybe you could quote me correctly.

My point was as follows: If I show government ID, as they state in their company policy that they accept, and it is in the style of government ID (in this case a photographic driving licence, which I did show), then it is not their fault if it were later found to be fake. It is my fault a) on fraudulent terms, and b) the person behind the counter did not have reasonable doubt to believe it was not real (seeing as it *is real*, they wouldn't have reason to doubt it).

Again, if you quote me correctly, and see I'm complaining to Thresher Group, there'll be no need to post profanities against me.

I feel, that, seeing as many students can't afford, or have no interest in, passing their driving test, and as passports are far too valuable to take down to the local offy to buy booze, we boycott them, and move to Luvians.

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[Setsuna]

Just before this nonsense with the provisionals, I got served in Bottoms Up using my provisional license and student ID. They took my provisional and scanned the barcode near the till. THis means that they must have a method of verifying it.

Also, the provisional has additional security features under UV light (I noticed this the last time I got ID'ed in a verrry UV full club.

The worst thing is how they make you feel like a stupid kid, when you are in yr early 20s.

[Lid]

The problem is we're quite clearly dealing with pedantic bastards who enjoy their petty sense of power.

No amount of rationale will make them understand, even if their company policy dictates they accept photographic driving licences (which a provisional quite clearly is (seeing as it's issued by the DVLA and says Driving Licence at the top))

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