The grator impact of rasin weekend

[The Dude]

I was talking with a friend of min who said that since all of the ambulances in east fife were either in use or on call around St. Andrews on Sunday a person died in another part of fife because the ambulance could not make it to them in time. I don't know how much of this is true and how much is a rumor, but it would Be interesting to sort it all out. I know that the sinner is no place to avoid rumors and I would like to repeat that there is no other support of what I said above than the word of another guy so it may be just a story. It would just be interesting to see how people outside the university are impacted by rasin weekend and what they think of it. I am not trying to make any statement with this since I do like thinks perfectly well as they are. I was just wondering what other people though or had heard from locals.

[Cain]

Was it three years ago that that happened last?

and what is it, 6 years since there was a Raisin Weekend related student death?

and Dude, lern 2 spel

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[Senethro]

The Dude abides.

[maz]

a taxi driver told me it was 12 years since the last student raisin death, but i was fairly pissed at the time, so i may have just imagined it. or got it wrong

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[Duggeh]

i doubt that any student has died during raisin weekend, at least as a result of the traditions, if that were so, we wouldnt be able to move for the health and safety rules and regulations that would be implimented en masse followign such an event.

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[Frank]

I get the impression that it could happen that all the Ambulances would be diverted to St As...but I doubt it.

Rather, a couple will be held 'just in case', but if anything kicks off deployed where needed.

I don't think the 'services that be' would really be so mad as to let all their ambulances be involved over here. Anyway, could they really ban raisin weekend?

Is it even organised, or simply 'endorsed and helped so it can be as safe as possible'?

[rumour?]Again, I heard the KK were involved in the Raisin Monday Foam Fight thing, I assume thats true, that they clean it up and such? [/rumour?]

Duggeh is probably right though, any major incident would lead to it's dissociation and condemnation.

Frank

[Cain]

The KK do clean up the quad, and that is why you walk past them on the way into the quad as they all hold their black bing bags, and are themselves covered in foam. i scraped a big wad off of James North's hair when i went in in my first year.

And as for student deaths, a student fell while climbing or walking along the cliffs at the castle a few years (not as long ago as 12, i believe) and died. He was particularly wasted, i believe.

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[jsap]

In this modern world it is unlikely that anyone will die because all ambulances are somewhere else because most major regions in the UK have helicopters. If there was a major incident in fife that no ambulance can attend, a helicopter from edinburgh, dundee or glasgow could attend within a few minutes. Also quantifying a death as the fault of poor ambulance response is very difficult and so if a person did die on sunday, it is difficult to say that they would have survived if reached in time. To put this into perspective remember that st-andrews is very small and so the emergency service response on sunday was no bigger than that of many citys in the UK. Raisin sunday is a known event and so extra provisions will have been made by hospitals and the ambulance service.


Sorry for all the spelling errors.

[DrAlex]

Last year during fresher's week I had the unfortunate experience of talking to the paramedic that I had to phone. He told me that the year prior, that is now two years ago, an elderly woman had died because too many ambulances were in the St Andrews area and not around Fife as usual.

Still hearsay, but perhaps slightly more believable.

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[Al]

Quoting Duggeh from 01:31, 23rd Nov 2005
i doubt that any student has died during raisin weekend, at least as a result of the traditions, if that were so, we wouldnt be able to move for the health and safety rules and regulations that would be implimented en masse followign such an event.

Actually, it was reasonably common for people to die. Most deaths - exposure was the big danger - resulted from pissed first years wandering away home only to fall asleep somewhere obviously unsuitable.

[Guest]

Ran into Yabroff yesterday by complete accident, and he was telling someone else that all the rumours, including the one opening this thread, were completely untrue.

[The chap]

Actually, it was reasonably common for people to die. Most deaths - exposure was the big danger - resulted from pissed first years wandering away home only to fall asleep somewhere obviously unsuitable.

-Dude, you are such a numpty! Shit, you'll believe just about anything on the strength that you were told it by a mate.

[maz]

I think there really is a possibility of raisin weekend deaths in the past. Perhaps a drunken student tripping in front of a car, falling down the cliffs, or just passing out in a garden somewhere. It was bloody cold this weekend, and it doesn't take long for hypothermia to set in, especially when your drunk, and probably unsuitably dressed. I don't think that the university has much control over whether raisin weekend happens. Even if they banned it, people would still get pissed. My academic son was woken up in a random garden last year by the police. He still doesn't know where he was, or what had happened to his phone etc. (this was after spending a few hours with his dad, I'd like to make that clear!) Having been here a while, I have to say that the town as a whole seemed a lot quieter this year, I'm sure the weekend is getting tamer! So maybe a death seems like a distant, crazy idea just now, but it seemed altogether possible if not likely, 5 or 6 years ago!

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[Gubbins]

I can't comment on this year, but I do believe that Raisin Weekend has become a bit more sedate over the last few years, both from my own experience and in talking to others.

I don't think any rumours of there being a death in the last six years are true (I certainly can't remember anything about it), but we were told (as I'm sure everyone is now) that there have been deaths in the past. I have the idea that the last one was probably about 9 years ago, but I can't remember. Certainly seven(?) years ago all the ambulances in Fife were used to ferry students to Ninewells.

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...but then again, that is only my opinion.

[Guest]

Some one died 2 years ago from falling from the cliffs at the Castle Sands.

[Al]

Quoting The Chap from 10:01, 23rd Nov 2005

-Dude, you are such a numpty! Shit, you'll believe just about anything on the strength that you were told it by a mate.

No but I will believe it because I was Association Welfare Officer, ran the Union side of Raisin Weekend, and was told of fatalities in previous years by both people within the University and staff members of the Association.

[queen of scots]

I seem to remember it was pretty bad the first year I was at uni - 1997 - with a higher than usual number of people taken to hospital. It made the national papers. I don't recall any deaths, but the emergency services were apparently overstretched that year, and there were rumours that the university was considering banning it, as it was the worst year it had been for a while.

I do think this year's seemed a little quieter than previous years - although I was kept awake by groups of annoying drunken students, the streets the following morning did not seem to be in quite the state they've been in in past years.

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[flarewearer]

Quoting from 11:11, 23rd Nov 2005
Some one died 2 years ago from falling from the cliffs at the Castle Sands.

That certianly happened more than 2 years ago, it happened before I was there, which is at least 6 years now.

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[Eliot Wilson]

Quoting Cain from 06:42, 23rd Nov 2005
And as for student deaths, a student fell while climbing or walking along the cliffs at the castle a few years (not as long ago as 12, i believe) and died. He was particularly wasted, i believe.

I may be wrong, but I think the death you may be thinking of was someone visiting a friend who was a student (but not himself a student), who fell off the cliffs near the war memorial. And I'm not sure it was directly Raisin Weekend-related. I don't think Raisin Weekend has killed a student in my time (so the last nine years, therefore). But I wouldn't swear to it.

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[maz]

well that's a sure way to up the infant mortality rates. Definitely sounds like you though Duncan.

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