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Postby Steveo on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:29 pm

Does anyone know where serves some good veal in town? I'm rather aching to try one of the few meats I've not eaten, and I hear nothing but good things about veal.

Any help?

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Postby motorhead on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:39 pm

You do no that veal is a meat product. Why is it that we kill animals to enjoy culinary delights. Just think of the baby veals that have been slaughtered to provide you with a comfortable dish
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Postby jsap on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:44 pm

ignore the antis!!!!
Try the butchers. Can I suggest venison (??spelling), tis the king of all meats!!
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Postby Steveo on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:44 pm

I think of the cows, calves and whatnot and I still eat meat.

Back to the question - I want some, where can I get it good?

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Postby Steveo on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:45 pm

I'm not looking to cook the veal myself, as I have no experience cooking veal.

Yes, venison is a great meat, I agree.

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Postby Eliot Wilson on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:49 pm

Veal's not that easy to get hold of - tends to get the emotions going - but if anywhere has it my guess would be Murray Mitchell. Even if they don't have it, they might know where you could get it.

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Postby novium on Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:36 pm

bockwurst is mostly made from veal, isn't it?

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Postby Gubbins on Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:53 pm

It's not easy to get hold of veal in the UK. You might want to try some of the hotel restaurants or more expensive restaurants in town (Doll's House, etc.), although I can't remember seeing it on a menu in St Andrews.

I can, however, vouch for roast kid. We killed one on the farm only last week and he made a lovely roast. The trick is not to let them see it coming - not only is it more humane, but it helps keep the meat tender. Although at .243 hunting rifle at point-blank range makes a bit of a mess.

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Postby Eliot Wilson on Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:53 pm

Yes, a combination of veal and pork. And a bit of chive and parsley. Mmmm.

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Postby flarewearer on Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:15 pm

Quoting Gubbins from 21:53, 16th Apr 2006
The trick is not to let them see it coming - not only is it more humane, but it helps keep the meat tender. Although at .243 hunting rifle at point-blank range makes a bit of a mess.


They don't have a chance to flood the muscles with lactic acid, which a stressed animal will. A relaxed animal is a tasty animal.

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Postby Lindsay on Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:28 pm

If you can get veal, look for British Rose Veal rather than continental white veal. By all accounts it is tastier and the process of creating the meat is less cruel.

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Postby themushroomgod on Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:47 pm

If I remember correctly, the Russel dining room occasionally has veal.

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Postby Al on Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:18 pm

I remember the days when Sallies served veal every week or so.
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Postby tordenskjold on Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:30 pm

A .243? pffff.. it's all about the .308

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Postby OhhMy on Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:47 pm

A friend of mine and I (yes we are cruel calous meat eaters) attempted to purchase some veal. The butchers on Market Street dont sell it because it is too expensive and the demand is too low. BUT Tesco sell it on the speciality meat shelf. If you cant find in a restraunt - have a go your self. Your bound to find plenty of recipies on line. The Italians have plenty of recipies for Veal. Its very very scrumy.

Oh to any Vegitarians out there I also enjoy fois gras.
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Postby flarewearer on Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:57 pm

Veal is very easy to cook, the secret is just to frighten it in the pan. It's delicious with a cream sauce or just some onions and a good slug of marsala.

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Postby Eliot Wilson on Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:06 pm

Saltimbocca's what you really want. My mother-in-law makes a mean saltimbocca.

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Postby Δ on Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:13 am

.270 Calibre

Not Only Kills The Animal But Also Skins It, Fillets It And Generally Turns It Completely Inside Out.

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Postby Sid on Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:26 am

Are you shittin' me?? The Dolls House?! An expensive restaurant? Come on, you must be kidding! The Dolls House is barely average.

I would try something like the Peat Inn, which is outside St Andrews. I've never been, but I've heard only good reports about it. Their menu's tend to be based around Scottish foods, however, they have a twist to them, I'm not sure if they ever do Veal, but you could try. The problem is that, if places round here don't sell Veal, then restaurants will tend not to cook it. You can also try the restaurant at the Old Course, they must have it now and again and perhaps even the Vine Leaf.

If you want to venture out of town, there is a decent Italian restaurant in Dundee, which I'm sure has Veal on the menu, it's called "The Italian". It's not super expensive, but you get a decent meal for what you pay.

If you want to cook it yourself, then don't try the Tesco Veal. It's not that great. Nowhere in St Andrews sells it, but if it's a special occasion you can go through to Dundee. There is an excellent Butcher in the city centre, they'll have Veal, maybe not all the time, but if you phone them you could arrange something.

As for recipes, I've only ever cooked it once. I had it stuffed with layers of prosciutto and spinach with Italian breadcrumbs, fried, then baked with white wine.

Also, it's delicious if you bash it so it's really thin, cover it in breadcrumbs and then pa-fry it. Or just cook it like you'd cook a steak, with a simple sauce though, not too overpowering to take away from the flavour of the veal.

Good luck!

Quoting Gubbins from 21:53, 16th Apr 2006
It's not easy to get hold of veal in the UK. You might want to try some of the hotel restaurants or more expensive restaurants in town (Doll's House, etc.), although I can't remember seeing it on a menu in St Andrews.

I can, however, vouch for roast kid. We killed one on the farm only last week and he made a lovely roast. The trick is not to let them see it coming - not only is it more humane, but it helps keep the meat tender. Although at .243 hunting rifle at point-blank range makes a bit of a mess.

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Postby Dickie on Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:57 am

Quoting Lindsay from 22:28, 16th Apr 2006
If you can get veal, look for British Rose Veal rather than continental white veal. By all accounts it is tastier and the process of creating the meat is less cruel.


The whole piont of veal is the method of production, if you buy it within the EU then it is unlikely that you will get what we all know andd love as veal. Back in 1994-5 there were blockades at many ports in the south of England because of the veal trade. In EU states it now no longer "legal" to produce veal in the propper way.

In the good old days, the calves were reared in narrow wooden crates unable to exercise or even turn round and often in the dark. The calves were tied by the neck to prevent movement. The slatted base of the crate (for ease of dealing with their defecation) caused the joints of the legs to become malformed so that most veal calves could not even walk to their own slaughter. The diet of the calf was restricted to reconstituted milk (no plain water so only milk to drink speeding up the weight gain) and due to the low iron content, causing anaemia, producing the white meat. Many of the calves craved the fibre that ruminants require would eat parts of their wooden crates causing bowel disorders. But why care it's only a by-product of the dairy industry and it gives great pleasure to many when on the plate
Unfortunatly it is now VERY hard to get hold of good white veal anywhere but if you do find it enjoy it I do.

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