Veal

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Quoting Dickie from 02:57, 17th Apr 2006

Anyone would think you wrote that post to intentionally wind up bunny huggers.

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[Dickie]

Quoting flarewearer from 03:18, 17th Apr 2006
Anyone would think you wrote that post to intentionally wind up bunny huggers.

Why hug a bunny to death, just use a snare.


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[Jess]

Not only, are the calves usually subjected to the conditions already mentioned, but it has been known that farmers compensate for unhealthy living conditions by administering tranquilising medication and high levels of antibiotics. While illegal administration of antibiotics, particularly neomycin, is on the rise, administration of tranquilising medication is not widespread practice...

Also: In particular, the close-confinement veal crate system, still used in some European countries, has been banned here since 1990....So, again as said before, the veal that you are eating is probably not "veal" in it's original sense....ie very tender due to lack of light, movement and good nutrition...

I would urge you to think about it before you support such a trade. There are plenty of other good meats out there which are worth tasting and exploring, without subjecting calves to cruelty.

If you want veal, go to France...it's everywhere...unfortunately.

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[Gubbins]

Quoting Sid from 01:26, 17th Apr 2006
Are you shittin' me?? The Dolls House?! An expensive restaurant? Come on, you must be kidding! The Dolls House is barely average.

That is true, but in terms on St Andrews restaurants not adjoined to hotels, unless the restaurant trade *in* town has got even more up itself since I left, that's one of the better ones (aside from the Seafood Restaurant, but veal isn't really seafood).

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...but then again, that is only my opinion.

[Steveo]

Quoting Jess from 11:35, 17th Apr 2006
Not only, are the calves usually subjected to the conditions already mentioned, but it has been known that farmers compensate for unhealthy living conditions by administering tranquilising medication and high levels of antibiotics. While illegal administration of antibiotics, particularly neomycin, is on the rise, administration of tranquilising medication is not widespread practice...

Also: In particular, the close-confinement veal crate system, still used in some European countries, has been banned here since 1990....So, again as said before, the veal that you are eating is probably not "veal" in it's original sense....ie very tender due to lack of light, movement and good nutrition...

I would urge you to think about it before you support such a trade. There are plenty of other good meats out there which are worth tasting and exploring, without subjecting calves to cruelty.

If you want veal, go to France...it's everywhere...unfortunately.

Yes, I had the chance to read Wikipidia myself, thanks.

Why go trying all the other meats and leave this one out? Trust me, I'm trying as much as possible.

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[Superiorjames]

Quoting motorhead from 20:39, 16th Apr 2006
You do no that veal is a meat product. Why is it that we kill animals to enjoy culinary delights. Just think of the baby veals that have been slaughtered to provide you with a comfortable dish

Why is it that animals kill animals to enjoy culinary delights? Just think of the baby antelope that have been slaughtered to provide leopards with a comfortable dish.

[Dickie]

Quoting Superiorjames from 12:00, 17th Apr 2006

Quoting motorhead from 20:39, 16th Apr 2006
You do no that veal is a meat product. Why is it that we kill animals to enjoy culinary delights. Just think of the baby veals that have been slaughtered to provide you with a comfortable dish

Why is it that animals kill animals to enjoy culinary delights? Just think of the baby antelope that have been slaughtered to provide leopards with a comfortable dish.

There is one big diferance, veal is a by-product of the dairy industry. If you want to stop it don't drink milk etc.(I don't take dairy but i love veal).]


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This thread is going to give me nightmares. Can people really laugh about things like this?

[Dickie]

Quoting from 12:36, 17th Apr 2006
This thread is going to give me nightmares. Can people really laugh about things like this?

Good food is not a laughing matter.

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[Sid]

The Dolls House don't do that much meat either, the majority of their menu is seafood. Therefore I doubt if they would do veal.

Quoting Gubbins from 11:47, 17th Apr 2006

Quoting Sid from 01:26, 17th Apr 2006
Are you shittin' me?? The Dolls House?! An expensive restaurant? Come on, you must be kidding! The Dolls House is barely average.

That is true, but in terms on St Andrews restaurants not adjoined to hotels, unless the restaurant trade *in* town has got even more up itself since I left, that's one of the better ones (aside from the Seafood Restaurant, but veal isn't really seafood).

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...but then again, that is only my opinion.

[Rocky]

The Rufflets Hotel often does veal.

[Sid]

Yeah, that's if you don't puke because of their sickly laura ashley stylee decor.

Quoting Rocky from 16:38, 17th Apr 2006
The Rufflets Hotel often does veal.

[Eliot Wilson]

The decor at Rufflets may leave a little to be desired, but the food is (usually) excellent, the bar very comfortable, and their range of whiskies admirable.

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[Grandpa]

Quoting Lindsay from 22:28, 16th Apr 2006
If you can get veal, look for British Rose Veal rather than continental white veal. By all accounts it is tastier and the process of creating the meat is less cruel.

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who cares if it is cruel or not - if it were me, I'd go with the authenticity.

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[Dickie]

Quoting Grandpa from 01:30, 18th Apr 2006
who cares if it is cruel or not - if it were me, I'd go with the authenticity.

I go for taste.

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[Grandpa]

Quoting Dickie from 03:24, 18th Apr 2006

Quoting Grandpa from 01:30, 18th Apr 2006
who cares if it is cruel or not - if it were me, I'd go with the authenticity.

I go for taste.

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As it happens, this is exactly what I meant. I just neglected to say that, in my estimation if something is produced in the most authentic way it could be, there is probably a good reason for this - the taste.

A less 'cruel' way of producing something is not always what makes it tastier. Taste is one of those peculiar things that some would say comes with experience and others would say is personal. I would say that with certain things (such as coffee and possibly alcoholic drinks) the former is true, yet I know a lot of people who dislike coffee and/or alcohol on the grounds that they do not like the taste.

However, Veal is traditionally appreciated for its delicate taste, tender texture and nutritious qualities. Further to this, 'rose veal':
[img]http://www.alternativemeats.co.uk/images_products/106.jpg[/img]so called because it is more like beef than veal (in colour, texture and content) is really not veal at all, due to being darker than traditional veal and although it may come from young calves, it is not as light in colour, nor as delicate in taste nor as nutritious as the lighter (authentic) veal. This is all simply due to the fact that real veal is taken from calves who are somewhat restricted in their movements: not so much as to deny them a comfortable life, but enough that their meat does not develop the tough muscule fibre.

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[Tigger]

Veal tastes good due to the way it is produced. there is no humane way to get it, and as far as i know, the more inhumane you are, the better it tastes. all in all, if there is taht much effort put in, eat it. at least it saves bambi from the table for one meal......

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[angel_kohaku]

"how's the roast beef?"
"it's veal"
"do you know how they make veal? they take the baby cow, hang it upside down and slit its throat. That's very interesting"

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Quoting angel_kohaku from 11:58, 18th Apr 2006
"how's the roast beef?"
"it's veal"
"do you know how they make veal? they take the baby cow, hang it upside down and slit its throat. That's very interesting"

Mrs T: Veal substitute?
Polly: It's Japanese, actually - soya beans and essence of cow.

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