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[s] Unregisted User wrote on 14:46, 4th Sep 2002: Call me Mr Picky, but as I understand it Viscount Linley takes his precedence from his father, the Earl of Snowdon, and therefore ranks as the eldest son of an earl between Viscounts of the United Kingdom and Marquesses' younger sons. He would take p...

Sliver.

Sorry for starting this whole side issue - back to the matter in hand, what?

I watched the first show of "I'm A Celebrity..." and haven't watched it since. The concept isn't so bad - Celebrity Big Brother was enjoyable, I thought - but the execution lacks something.

The authority for all this is "Debrett's Correct Form". I believe there is a copy in the Library.

[s]Scunthorpe wrote on 07:53, 3rd Sep 2002:
Or there is of coure the system whereby the title Lord is appended to your first name and the title the follows, ie Lord Matthew, the Earl Stanhope for example.

What system is that? The example you give is certainly incorrect.

[s] Scunthorpe wrote on 13:22, 3rd Sep 2002: Technically the order is: Monarch Prince of Wales Princess of England Royal Duke Duke etc... And don't you forget it. Actually, HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, was assigned precedence after HM The Queen (except where otherwise provided by Act of...

Excuse the frequent edits above - was having trouble with all the open-square-brackets-oblique-i-close-square-brackets palaver.

[s] Al wrote on 00:00, 2nd Sep 2002: I think what you meant was "why [i]does EVERYONE get this wrong?"[/i] If you prefer. And more to the point, how do you know everyone does? I was exaggerating in order to add emphasis - one more frequently sees peers styled incorrectly than correctly. The peer's s...

[s] Scunthorpe wrote on 11:17, 2nd Sep 2002: Phina is mostly correct. There will always be the odd point of panic when living off the loan but it is entirely possible to keep the Bombay Sapphire (or whatever you prefer) running all year long. Lord knows most of Rocksoc manage it. Phina and Scunthorp...

Bloody hell.

[s]The_Farwall wrote on 14:21, 30th Aug 2002:
...being criticised for being snobbish and decadent and we're all struggling to survive on student loans and overdrafts.

It is possible to be snobbish and decadent while simultaneously struggling to survive on student loans and overdrafts.

Why the Duke of Beaufort? Although he has a direct male-line descent from Edward III, it is through one illegitimate son and one dubiously legitimated one.

Returning to the matter in hand...

What's wrong with being famous for being a socialite?

For goodness' sake! Why must EVERYONE get this wrong? Call me a pedant, but... It is completely incorrect to refer to a peer as "Lord [Firstname] [Title]" as above, even if the title is the same as the surname. All peers (except Dukes) are referred to in conversation simply as "Lord [Title]" - for e...

Why does everyone hate Tara Palmer-Tomkinson?

Does anyone know the name/artist of the tune that was used as the theme for ITV's "Popstars" (which launched Hear'say on their road to, er, international stardom)?

Alas - Sean Winslow will no longer be there

Have you not been to one of those debates where everyone is completely rat-arsed? Particularly Peter Murray, James North and Barry Joss.

[Ducks to avoid libel action]

I think that in general, Americans aren't disliked - just laughed at.

The Kaiser