student record averages, working out what I need

[tg]

Hello to anyone who is reading this:

I should very much like to pick your brain(s) on the subject of module-result averages.

I am a 4th year, and have two more exams.

My modules are all equally weighted and divided in to 30 credit modules- 120 per academic year. I have two more exams, which account for 50% of my grade in the respective modules and, in turn, those modules make up one quarter of my honours modules.

so, here's my question.

If I had an average of 15 after semester 1 (OR 3 IN MY CASE), does that mean I simply need to average a 9 this semester to get to the 13.5 required for a 2:1?

and, if i am now going in to these exams on 15/17 for each respective module -through continuous assesment this semester- what do i need to do in the exam to get a 2:1?

will a five do?

obvioulsy i will endevour to do as well as i can, but a little reassurance wouldn't go astray.

my module break down of marks for honours is as follows. (Had a bit of a shaky start)

(3rd year)
13.5
12.5
15.6
17

(4th year)
16.2
15.1
(15 through continuous assessment)
(17" " " )

Some of you probably can not be bothered to answer this, and if that's you, then i hope my plight, and module marks made interesting reading.

To the others out there, who can be arsed, and know what they are talking about, I would really appreciate your wisdom.

CHEERS, tg

[servus]

You're marks are like mine, I don't know what you need for a 2:1, but I am convinced and I mean CONVINCED that results in Summer exams are deliberately Higher than in Winter exams.

So the only way is up!

[Iain]

Hello
At the moment, your grades without counting this semester's continuous are: mean 14.98 and median 15.35, so a solid 2:1.

If you were to get two fives in your exams; you would, given your continuous assessment still get over a mean of 13.5 (or at the very worst your median score would still be high enough) Sit back and rest assured, you've done enough, just don't fail the exams!

There's a spreadsheet to do the calculations; someone must have it online somewhere...

[hr]

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~snpsoc

[tg]

Quoting Iain from 21:00, 11th May 2007
Hello
At the moment, your grades without counting this semester's continuous are: mean 14.98 and median 15.35, so a solid 2:1.

If you were to get two fives in your exams; you would, given your continuous assessment still get over a mean of 13.5 (or at the very worst your median score would still be high enough) Sit back and rest assured, you've done enough, just don't fail the exams!

There's a spreadsheet to do the calculations; someone must have it online somewhere...

[hr]

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~snpsoc

thanks very much.

[floatingonmycloud]

Is it really an average of 13.5 for a 2.1? For some reason I thought it was around a 15...

[Iain]

It may vary between departments, but 13.5 (60%)-16.5(70%) weighted mean is at least a 2:1 in the geoscience department for me. Can be upgraded depending upon the median.

I can't say enough, please, scrounge around for your departmental handbooks - they aught to contain the information you require regarding the grading systems and if they don't go and pester someone in the department in question. Can't speak for other than geog/geol.

[hr]

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~snpsoc

[A66]

Quoting floatingonmycloud from 09:31, 12th May 2007
Is it really an average of 13.5 for a 2.1? For some reason I thought it was around a 15...

A 13.5 is a guaranteed 2.1
13.0 with a median mark over 13.5 is the same
This IS university wide, there is a pdf somewhere about it, no matter what your department says those are the borders.

[Idealist]

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/staff/Polic ... 2000-2004/

This will tell you everything you need to know...its pretty easy to work out on your own.



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[s]"You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"[/s]

[joug]

What does it mean when it says the median has to be an 'integer'?

My mean is 15.95 (8 modules, middle two are 15.4 and 16.5) - does this mean it is actually 16?

Thanks for any help! (Can you tell I don't do maths?!)

[Hex]

Are you thinking of this bit?:

"If the number of entries in the final sequence is odd, as in this case, the result of the calculation must be that grade for which there are as many other grades to its left as on its right, and the answer for M must be an integer. However, if there is an even number of entries, on takes the mean of the two most centrally positioned grades. Depending on their numerical values this will sometimes yield a median value which is an integer, and sometimes it will be an integer + 1/2. These are the only two possible outcomes for the credit-weighted median grade."


I believe this is no longer the case, as this bit was originally written under the old regulations, under which all module results were integer grades.