Prime Minister Brown?

[legohead]

ole Tony's just declared Gordon Brown will be his sucessor- does this mean Blair will step down finally?

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[kezziecats]

He said a few weeks ago that he would lead the pary through the election and then step down whether they win or not.

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[Steveo]

He's only done this so people vote for Labour in the hope they get Brown later.

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[Duggeh]

peopel who would hope for GB to be PM need to be locked up

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[legohead]

Quoting Duggeh from 10:11, 29th Apr 2005
peopel who would hope for GB to be PM need to be locked up

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why?

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[Steveo]

..Because he is esentially a sociallist in disguise. We all know that sociallism is a failed experient, tax and spend doesn't work, and I don't want a man who will do this by stealth taxes, aka the backdoor.

Sociallism makes everyone equally poor, not a good thing.

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[Ga]

Quoting Steveo from 11:06, 29th Apr 2005
..Because he is esentially a sociallist in disguise. We all know that sociallism is a failed experient, tax and spend doesn't work, and I don't want a man who will do this by stealth taxes, aka the backdoor.

Sociallism makes everyone equally poor, not a good thing.

Scandinavia called, they want you to retract that comment.


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If everything in life had a point, life would be pointless

[tordenskjold]

Oh yes Scandinavia where even they are getting tired of wealth redistribution. Also I think you will find Scandinavia's system a far cry from anything 'New Labour' could dream up.

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Døden ikke heller.

[steerpike]

Quoting Steveo from 11:06, 29th Apr 2005
..Because he is esentially a sociallist in disguise. We all know that sociallism is a failed experient
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come off it, it's not like Gordon Brown is going to make a mini USSR out of Britain


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Nothing is easier than to condemn the evildoer, nothing is harder than to understand him.

F.Dostoevsky

[tordenskjold]

Some people would say that's what has been done in some scandinavian countries so I wouldn't be too sure.

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Da er livet ej så svært,
Døden ikke heller.

[Marco Biagi]

Gordon Brown is Tony Labour with the spin machine still working. Other than 'image', can anyone cite any evidence of where Brown has actually taken action to the left of Blair?

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[amac]

Some people still say the earth is flat...

[MadDog20/20]

Gordon's gonna be no1. Brilliant.

Long live the Scottish Raj!!!

[ever_nocturnal]

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[David Bean]

So far as Scandosocialism is concerned, my Swedish academic daughter informs me that the problem that have isn't that everyone is poor, but that everything is standardised to the Nth degree. There's none of the variety, none of the vibrancy, that comes with a capitalist economy where firms are free to compete with one another for the attentions and custom of the buyers.

Unfortunately, however, virtually everyone has been brainwashed into believing that this is the way things should be - that it really is the state's place to run people's lives for them. Coupled with that, there are no viable right-of-centre political alternatives.

However, Scandinavians (and others) who are tired of this consensual state oppression could do worse than checking out the web log of one Johan Norberg, the crusadng pro-capitalist who wrote one of my favourite books, "In Defence of Global Capitalism". Check him out at www.johannorberg.net - I think you'll find he talks a lot of sense.

[themushroomgod]

So it doesn't matter that the Scandanavian countries are some of the nicest places on Earth to live, for the average person? I'd far rather live in and be a citizen of Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Finland!

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[The Badger Machine]

Quoting David Bean from 14:18, 30th Apr 2005
There's none of the variety, none of the vibrancy, that comes with a capitalist economy where firms are free to compete with one another for the attentions and custom of the buyers.

There's not much variety when all you can afford is Tesco Value. Choice, one of the favourite words of the right, is only an option for those who can afford it. The Scandinavian system is considerably better to live under if you are poor, in my opinion, and I believe that is the only mark of a good society.

Unfortunately, however, virtually everyone has been brainwashed into believing that this is the way things should be - that it really is the state's place to run people's lives for them.

'Everyone has been brainwashed' so what you are suggesting is that no-one in Scandinavia has the capacity to think for themselves and consider politics in a rational and logical way. Its awfully lucky that you are here Mr Bean, to alert us to this terrible truth and to save the ignorant Scandinavians from themselves.

I look forward to the day when Brown becomes PM because I think he will recapture a least a little of the traditional Labour values such as high tax for the rich and nationalisation of the railways. Even though I dislike Blair I hope he wins another landslide victory because nothing makes me happier than to see the Tory Party crushed and broken and to see a little more misery added to Jeffrey Archer and Jonathan Aitken.

[tordenskjold]

I agree with that the Swedish academic daughter has to say about Scandinavia. I'm not saying they aren't beautiful countries and have great systems for looking after their citizens.The truth is that the state does EVERYTHING there. Everyone just expects things to be done for them. You are practically looked down on it you are motivated to differentiate yourself which lowers peoples' willingness to try harder. It's like a nest full of bird chicks constantly screeching for food. Also it has bred a generation of youths who have never had to do anything difficult in their lives and just expect things to fall into their lap when they want it to. Truly appalling. Also intensely annoying. I would like to see a definite injection of having to give to receive in Scandinavia. The place works but the costs are there. The amount of tax people have to pay is also horrendous. It may also be instructive to take a look at how many people are employed in the bureacracies of the state. Also, if those places are so great then why do so many commit suicide and wander around depressed?

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Kæmp for alt hvad du har kært,
Dø om så det gælder.
Da er livet ej så svært,
Døden ikke heller.

[Pender Native]

Also, if those places are so great then why do so many commit suicide and wander around depressed?

because they don't get enough daylight?


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'I like to listen to a man who likes to talk. Whoops! Sawdust and Treacle, put that in your herring and smoke it!' - quote from the Bursar in Terry Pratchett's Discworld books. Hope that clears up any confusion as to my personal tastes!

[tordenskjold]

Well, since Copenhagen is on a level with St.Andrews roughly surely the suicide rates should be the same? Bottom line is these places are great and function well but don't think they represent some sort of utopia because they don't.

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Kæmp for alt hvad du har kært,
Dø om så det gælder.
Da er livet ej så svært,
Døden ikke heller.