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Have English really scrapped Voice and Vision?

Postby KateBush on Fri May 20, 2005 7:06 pm

If so, thank CHRIST for that, it was BLOODY AWFUL. I hated that module. I very nearly left it was so poo! But luckily Tragic Forms was less of an insult to the intelligence!

Anyone who know what it's being replaced by, post here...inquiring minds want to know:)

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Postby Humphrey on Fri May 20, 2005 7:19 pm

I hated that module too so I won't be mourning its demise. I'm willing to bet they will replace it with something far worse, but its not my problem any more i'm glad to say. :)

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Postby pobtastic on Fri May 20, 2005 8:26 pm

Hopefully something that isn't so poetry based - but I doubt it considering the English department building is now "Poetry House", the largest building dedicated to poetry in the UK (apparently). That's the one thing I hated most about studying English at this university, the importance placed upon poetry in the first 2 years. I hate poetry, I see no point in the vast majority of it, and I wish that I didn't have to have it all forced down my throat for the 4 years of my undergraduate degree
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Postby johness on Fri May 20, 2005 9:16 pm

I agree the first semester of 2nd year is far too poetry based (as in- you don't do anything else) but 4 years? surely you could have chosen modules that weren't poetry based? Voice and Vision was not my favourite module in the world- I don't think they're scrapping it entirely but it is due for a shake up.

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Postby Canandrew on Fri May 20, 2005 10:23 pm

I believe they're completely redoing first year, so Tragic Form is going as well. Some of the texts apparently are continuing over (I want to say Wuthering Heights for example), but it looks like its going to be a bit better.

Thank God for that though, Voice and Vision was awful. If I hadn't started last year with Medieval and Renaissance texts (I'm one of the lucky English and IR kids), I don't know what I would've thought about English here. It's a horrid way to start off.

I hope Tragic Forms doesn't change too much though, I quite liked it.
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Postby Manic23 on Sat May 21, 2005 7:54 am

Tragic forms was great, but V&V sucked balls. I didn't mind Hogg and Bronte so much, but I am of the persuasion that the complete works of T.S. Eliot should be incinerated, then the remnants buried in the deepest recesses of Antarctica, never to be seen or suffered by anyone ever again
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Postby legohead on Sat May 21, 2005 8:49 am

poetry is marvellous, so pppfffthh to you poetry-haters. although first year was a bit of a slog- I think they should be focusing more on modern poetry- after all, that's a lot more comprehensible and relevent to our lives than something written before the two world wars

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Postby Laura on Sat May 21, 2005 8:55 am

I hope they do scrap it, not just because of the content, but because of the title- none of the tutors even knew what it implied. I hated every second of it, bet then again I've hated every module with exception of Comedy and Society...
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Postby rob 'f*ck off' wine boy on Sat May 21, 2005 10:56 am

I hope they assassinate that professional poetess who wouldn't shut up about how she thought you should write poetry. how the fuck was that relevant?
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Postby Captain_Spanky on Sat May 21, 2005 10:57 am

TS Ellliot\'s works burnt? Are you mad? The Waste Land is one of the greatest poems ever written...and certainly my favorite

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Postby Scientists against English on Sat May 21, 2005 1:12 pm

Quoting pobtastic from 23:26, 20th May 2005That's the one thing I hated most about studying English at this university, the importance placed upon poetry in the first 2 years. I hate poetry, I see no point in the vast majority of it, and I wish that I didn't have to have it all forced down my throat for the 4 years of my undergraduate degree


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Postby sabra_girl on Sat May 21, 2005 1:55 pm

Rob - I quite agree. I though Kathleen Jamie was pretty out of line with that one. I mean, everyone writes and is inspired in a different way and who cares what it is as long as it works for them? I almost laughed out loud when she said, "If anything inspires you so much that you just have to write a poem about it - don't! That's no way to go about writing a poem!" Bollocks to that.

It would be funnier but I have her for my Creative Writing module next semester (I'm an English and Geography kid who's now down to English). Should be interesting...

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