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Postby Campbell on Wed May 10, 2006 1:04 pm

i'd say 'the naked and the dead'


and for the record, i'm all for the free expression of subjective artistic taste, but anyone who likes dan brown is

a) a fucking idiot
b) a fucking idiot
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Postby flarewearer on Wed May 10, 2006 1:04 pm

Quoting Bitterandtwisted from 13:55, 10th May 2006

Day of the Triffids


Absolutely!
Might I also add;

Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury

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Postby Bitterandtwisted on Wed May 10, 2006 1:08 pm

Quoting Telinar from 13:59, 10th May 2006
I agree that there are several archetypes within these books that reoccur but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Like I said, it makes it accessible as there are easily identifiable characters. While not high class literature, it is a good start to the genre as Lord of the Rings can be a bit heavy.

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Perhaps. They are certainly entertaining enough (or I wouldn't have read the whole lot of them). If you like that sort of thing, I would recommend Raymond E Feist or Terry Brooks.

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Postby beeny on Wed May 10, 2006 1:13 pm

Quoting campbell from 14:04, 10th May 2006
i'd say 'the naked and the dead'


and for the record, i'm all for the free expression of subjective artistic taste, but anyone who likes dan brown is

a) a fucking idiot
b) a fucking idiot


Damn right campbell. I remember starting to read 'Da Vinci Code' (pure shiiiiiite btw) and thinking 'hmm the writing seems a little forced but maybe, maybe its hard to start a story like this off.'

7 chapters in, not only had i guessed the inevitable and tedious ending but I had also discovered that Dan Brown cannot write. His plots are contrived, his dialogue stilted, forced and completely clumsy and is descriptions read more like itineraries than carefully crafted images. And to add insult to injury, he thinks this style of writing is so good that he uses the EXACT same formula in every book.

Now, no more 'ooooh isn't the Da Vinci Cde good. ooooh really made me think'. No-one cares about your silly, infantile opinions.

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Postby Bitterandtwisted on Wed May 10, 2006 1:13 pm

Incidently, has anyone read John Wyndhams Triffids and seen 28 days later? When I first saw that film, I thought this is exactly how I immagined the start of the book. Waking up in hospital to find a completely silent London.

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Postby beeny on Wed May 10, 2006 1:17 pm

Oooops, realised I hadn't been helpful, just ranted.

Anyway, I would recommend anything by Bill Bryson if you want a laugh.

Also, 'Blink' by Malcolm Gladwell (Glidewell?) is really good. Looks at how people's first impressions can often be their most correct.

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Postby rubberjohnny on Wed May 10, 2006 1:18 pm

Ken Kesey - One flew over the Cuckoo's nest

Check out some of Philip K Dicks stuff if you like mindbending plots.
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Postby flarewearer on Wed May 10, 2006 1:20 pm

Quoting Bitterandtwisted from 14:13, 10th May 2006
Incidently, has anyone read John Wyndhams Triffids and seen 28 days later? When I first saw that film, I thought this is exactly how I immagined the start of the book. Waking up in hospital to find a completely silent London.


I thought EXACTLY the same thing. Got the book and the film, and the similarities are uncanny, perhaps one of the reasons I love the film so much, despite the fact it loses the plot in the middle (and the totally awesome postrock-esque soundtrack).

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Postby Campbell on Wed May 10, 2006 1:38 pm

thanks beeny
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Postby Campbell on Wed May 10, 2006 1:38 pm

thanks beeny
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Postby lauraelizabeth on Wed May 10, 2006 1:40 pm

The count of monte cristo. It took me a while to read, but it's amazing. There is danger, deception, intrigue, murder, romance, everything you could ever wish for!!
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Postby Jen the Phantom Hobbit of on Wed May 10, 2006 2:29 pm

The Falco series by Lindsey Davis are very good.
As is Lord of the Rings!
Also higly recommended by me and the voices that live in my head are The Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux and War of the Worlds by H G Wells.
Failing that try Homer!

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Postby Jen the Phantom Hobbit of on Wed May 10, 2006 2:29 pm

The Falco series by Lindsey Davis are very good.
As is Lord of the Rings!
Also higly recommended by me and the voices that live in my head are The Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux and War of the Worlds by H G Wells.
Failing that try Homer!

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Postby Magus on Wed May 10, 2006 3:14 pm

Quoting Jen the Phantom Hobbit of the Opera from 15:29, 10th May 2006
The Falco series by Lindsey Davis are very good.


Steven Saylor's Gordianus series is far superior. And Republican - hurrah!
Agree on Phantom, and Hugo's Les Miserables is excellent. Forget all you ever knew about the musicals, read the originals!

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Postby Jubilee on Wed May 10, 2006 4:24 pm

'Sabriel', 'Lirael' and 'Abhorsen' by Garth Nix.

Or if you're not into fantasy 'Hotel New Hampshire' by John Irving or 'The Virgin Suicides' by Jeffrey Eugenides.
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Postby iab2 on Wed May 10, 2006 4:51 pm

Read the Simon Scarrow books on Macro and Cato. They are fictional stories set in the Roman army. Brilliant if you like adventure. They all have "Eagle" in the title if you are looking for them

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Postby novium on Wed May 10, 2006 5:00 pm

I wouldn't go quite that far, but mostly because, despite everything, he as become so freaking popular, I loathe dan brown from the very bottom of my heart.
Quoting campbell from 14:04, 10th May 2006
i'd say 'the naked and the dead'


and for the record, i'm all for the free expression of subjective artistic taste, but anyone who likes dan brown is

a) a fucking idiot
b) a fucking idiot


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Postby novium on Wed May 10, 2006 5:02 pm

Not to mention that he says it's true, and that he's done his research. hah. I'm not even talking about the larger stuff, but even small details were wrong, wrong, wrong, and at best popular misconceptions. And then, to tell people that it is true...that is the great sin against history in my mind.

Quoting beeny from 14:13, 10th May 2006
Quoting campbell from 14:04, 10th May 2006
i'd say 'the naked and the dead'


and for the record, i'm all for the free expression of subjective artistic taste, but anyone who likes dan brown is

a) a fucking idiot
b) a fucking idiot


Damn right campbell. I remember starting to read 'Da Vinci Code' (pure shiiiiiite btw) and thinking 'hmm the writing seems a little forced but maybe, maybe its hard to start a story like this off.'

7 chapters in, not only had i guessed the inevitable and tedious ending but I had also discovered that Dan Brown cannot write. His plots are contrived, his dialogue stilted, forced and completely clumsy and is descriptions read more like itineraries than carefully crafted images. And to add insult to injury, he thinks this style of writing is so good that he uses the EXACT same formula in every book.

Now, no more 'ooooh isn't the Da Vinci Cde good. ooooh really made me think'. No-one cares about your silly, infantile opinions.

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Postby novium on Wed May 10, 2006 5:05 pm

I must recommend Gillian Bradshaw's novels. The only one set during the republic, though, was mostly told from Syracuse's point of view. Nevertheless, they are good books.

Quoting Magus from 16:14, 10th May 2006
Quoting Jen the Phantom Hobbit of the Opera from 15:29, 10th May 2006
The Falco series by Lindsey Davis are very good.


Steven Saylor's Gordianus series is far superior. And Republican - hurrah!
Agree on Phantom, and Hugo's Les Miserables is excellent. Forget all you ever knew about the musicals, read the originals!

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Postby sparkler on Wed May 10, 2006 6:23 pm

Dune by Frank Herbert, I think no one did any justice to it with the films. Read it! And if you want more science fiction, read Chasm City by Alistair Reynolds, great book.

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