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Postby Don on Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:06 pm

Where is the option for "Now maybe the English will stop complaining that Scotland has the crap weather!" ?

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Postby rob 'f*ck off' wine boy on Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:17 pm

The English are all on holiday in Ibiza just now, so we don't need to take them into account.
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Postby munchingfoo on Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:22 pm

Maybe this would a good time to start another uprising?

Next stop - Derby.

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Postby The Bitter Historian on Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:28 pm

My grandad has two foot of water flowing through the middle of his house right now. This is especially entertaining given that all of his business papers are now lost, as well as all his heart medication, his hearing aid and a lot of valuable furniture. The only people to help with the clear up are the neighbours - a couple with two young children and another on the way - and my grandmother, who suffered a stroke not too long ago. We're travelling down as soon as it's safe to go back into the house and helping with the clean-up job. He's been living there for nearly 25 years and it hasn't flooded once before.

You don't realise how serious this is until it affects you.

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Postby DrAlex on Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:52 pm

And yet, people continue to deny the existance of climate change. Everyone should consider this summer a warning, the Gulf Stream will permanently move just like it has oscilated this summer.

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Postby Haunted on Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:31 pm

Genesis 19:4-8
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Postby munchingfoo on Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:36 pm

Quoting DrAlex from 13:52, 26th Jul 2007
And yet, people continue to deny the existance of climate change. Everyone should consider this summer a warning, the Gulf Stream will permanently move just like it has oscilated this summer.



Sniff

Sniff Sniff.


Snnnnnnnnnnniifffff.


Yup, I definately smell shite.

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Postby DrAlex on Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:30 pm

Quoting munchingfoo from 14:36, 26th Jul 2007

Yup, I definately smell shite.


Maybe it's raw sewage because your town is flooded?

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Postby novium on Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:40 pm

Look, isn't this like the katrina thing? Don't the actual scientists say that actual effects won't be felt for some time? That these things take decades?

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Postby exnihilo on Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:25 pm

Quoting DrAlex from 13:52, 26th Jul 2007
And yet, people continue to deny the existance of climate change. Everyone should consider this summer a warning, the Gulf Stream will permanently move just like it has oscilated this summer.


I don't think anyone denies climate change, what they deny is man's responsibility for or impact on that change. Climate change happens, has always happened, and will continue to happen - that is beyond dispute. The question is, is that change being speeded up or altered by the actions of mankind?

On a more light-hearted note, a friend of mine joked we were about to become the new Atlantis, but a very cut-rate, low-grade, typically British version, rather then the whole island being swallowed in a massive cataclysm, we'll be knee deep an things'll be a bit damp.
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Postby A66 on Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:28 pm

Strange the focus Oxford is getting for actualy no real flooding - OK some but limited. Now compare that to what happened in Hull, 1/5 of the town was flooded the coverage never got anywhere neear as existinsive as the 'OMG this actualy on the Thames and heading to our London commuterland' coverage we've seen this week.

I appreciate the fact what has happened in Gloucster(shire) is bad and does derseve the coverage but the coverage of the Thames has been far excise.

In contrast Skye is suffering from a drought and producing of Talisker has had to be stoped.
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Postby Nymphomanic on Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:19 pm

Yes but those were in March. It's now July. Is this actually freak weather or is it a result of the whole El Nino thing.

incidentally it's 40 c here. No one can go out.



Quoting Haunted from 14:31, 26th Jul 2007
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Postby Gubbins on Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:20 pm

Quoting nymphomanic from 17:19, 26th Jul 2007
Yes but those were in March. It's now July. Is this actually freak weather or is it a result of the whole El Nino thing.

incidentally it's 40 c here. No one can go out.

Incidentally, it's 33C out here.

The official stance (or my interpretation of it) is that 2006's El Niño and 2007's La Niña conditions in the south Pacific this year led to various knock-on effects (which I don't pretend to understand) have lead to a weakening of the Azores and Continental highs, and a deepending of the Polar and Icelandic lows, forcing the Jet Stream (Polar Front) further south, so that England is getting all the shite weather that the north Scotland often gets in summer :), but because of geographic conditions the effect is much worse.

As for global warming, you cannot take any one event to be evidence of global warming. What you need to see is a trend. There does seem to be a strengthening of the Southern Oscillation that forms El Niño and La Niña if my memory serves me correctly, but there is no data relating this to the global increase in temperatures or to anthropological activity.

(Edited to make sense)

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Postby munchingfoo on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:05 pm

I wonder if they are still giving out parking tickets in the flooded areas. I'd love to see a snap shot of a traffic warden in waders handing out tickets to half submerged cars.

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Postby munchingfoo on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:05 pm

I wonder if they are still giving out parking tickets in the flooded areas. I'd love to see a snap shot of a traffic warden in waders handing out tickets to half submerged cars.

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Postby nighteyes on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:36 pm

I read something about that - those bastards must love their jobs.

Quoting munchingfoo from 19:05, 26th Jul 2007
I wonder if they are still giving out parking tickets in the flooded areas. I'd love to see a snap shot of a traffic warden in waders handing out tickets to half submerged cars.

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Postby nighteyes on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:36 pm

I read something about that - those bastards must love their jobs.

Quoting munchingfoo from 19:05, 26th Jul 2007
I wonder if they are still giving out parking tickets in the flooded areas. I'd love to see a snap shot of a traffic warden in waders handing out tickets to half submerged cars.

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!


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Postby DrAlex on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:49 pm

Quoting novium from 15:40, 26th Jul 2007
Look, isn't this like the katrina thing? Don't the actual scientists say that actual effects won't be felt for some time? That these things take decades?


They did say that about Katrina, but they also said that Katrina serves a good indication of what we could be in for if we don't get our acts together.

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Postby Steveo on Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:01 pm

I always find the news etc surrounding climate change, when I hear it, makes me think of Dr Goebbels.

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Postby DrAlex on Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:14 pm

Quoting Steveo from 21:01, 26th Jul 2007
I always find the news etc surrounding climate change, when I hear it, makes me think of Dr Goebbels.


Would that make those of us who ignore the message like Neville Chamberlain? Or perhaps Herbert Hoover?

Most news is OTT, OTT sells. That doesn't mean it's false propaganda.

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