The Strafford Club

[Eliot Wilson]

Marxists don't get drunk; they aren't interesting enough. Say what you like about them, but Tories are usually the most fun.

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Bill and Ted beat the Grim Reaper at Twister

Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

Death: "Don't patronise me."

[Prophet Tenebrae]

Is 1892 still a society? I thought it had fizzled to nothing?

One things for sure though - debates about the KK and their role/importance/inherent evil/abomination to all that is left and liberal seem now to be as deeply engrained a tradition as the KK itself.

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[Lady Macbeth]

Quoting Anonymous from 11:06, 8th Aug 2001
Is the Westoun society still running, it seems even more interesting as no one knows anything about it and yet you still bump into a couple of people who have said they went to one...

The Westoun Society has always been there, always will. JUst not necessarily always in St. Andrews.
You don't find it, it finds you.

[Will]

Far as I know 1892 has gone the way of the Dodo (quite rightfully so) and went kapoof.

[DrAlex]

/begin rant

Quoting Al from 21:21, 7th Aug 2001
However, it chooses to organise events within the university and wider community and promotes itself as some sort of keeper of university traditions. None of the things the KK does are dependent on it being men only. If it wants to remain an all male club, fine - they should give up their social/community role. If they won't to this then they should admit women.

I never thought I'd be rushing to the defence of the KKC, but this passage is simply illogical. You admit that what the KKC does isn't dependent on the basis that they are all male (a fraternity in the purist sense of the word). Why, then, must they admit women if they choose to put on social functions?

You can draw analogies to the House of Commons until you're blue in the face: There is a fundamental flaw with that argument too. The Commons is a constitutionally designated body of government put in place to serve and represent the people. The Kate Kennedy Club is a fraternity who have put themselves in charge of upholding traditions. Why should they let anyone besides whom they choose in the club?

Quoting Emma from 10:21, 8th Aug 2001 But we cannot recreate the KK. Separate is not equal.

I need some clarification-are you saying that an all-female society couldn't be created to be as popular as the KKC? Because that seems to assume that when the KKC was invented it was instantly an institution. For lack of a better word, that's stupid. The Kate Kennedy Club got to where it is today through time.

The amount of clout you bestow on the KKC is up to you. Ignore them, follow your own traditions, throw your own balls, make your own damn club, whatever. They aren't official to the Uni or the town, it's just a bunch of students.

I think feminism is a great thing. I'm a solid believer in psychology and biology and I don't believe that there are no differences between the sexes- I know it to be true. I admit that women have to fight a lot of the time to get equal treatment and to challenge the notion that you have less potential, shit I dare say that as a sufferer of LD I can sympathize. But the arguments above aren't feminist, they're sensationalist. Consider "Diamond Car Insurance". If you create a company or a society that serves only to women, no one so much as bats an eyelid. Diamond even base they're ad campaigns on bad-mouthing men. Do the same with a male society, and people can't scream 'oppression' fast enough.
/end rant

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http://standrews.thefacebook.com/profil ... 71d2255dff

[exnihilo]

Why in the name of all that's reasonable has this antediluvian thread been revived?

[novium]

i have no idea.

[Irish Frank]

what is 1892? This sounds interesting.

[Wakka Wakka]

Quoting exnihilo from 16:35, 18th Oct 2005
Why in the name of all that's reasonable has this antediluvian thread been revived?

Because the left-wing nutjobs need to be continually reminded that nobody cares what they think.

[thebrookster]

Three Cheers to DrAlex!! Summed up in beautiful form. I far as I know, which is about 3mm, the KK are based on tradition, and traditionally the KK were male, as was this University. So as far as I can see, they are upholding tradition.

On a lighter note, anyone else wondered why there is such a 'who-ha' over letting women into the Infantry. For some unknown reason the Armed Forces have said No. As far as I am concerned, anyone who is foolish enough to want to go to the front line with a high chance of being killed in war should be allowed!

[Grandpa]

Quoting Anonymous from 19:27, 4th Aug 2001
Could somebody tell me if the Strafford Club still exists at St.Andrews.

I've never been, as yet, but understanmd the Strafford Club to be a monarchically supporting club. A better idea for a club I could not have.

Long live anybody Royal.

Raaaaah.

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We are gentlemen that neither in our hearts nor outward eyes envy the great nor shall the low despise.

[Irish Frank]

could anybody clarify what the 1892 club is?

[exnihilo]

The Strafford Club is a private, formal, gentlemen's dining club; membership by invitation only and subject to black-balling. It is dedicated to the principle of monarchy. It meets roughly six times per year and is modelled on a similar institution at Cambridge, it has ties both to that institution and to the Constitutional Monarchy Association, though is affiliated to neither. It was founded in 1995 on Feb 6th.

The 1892 Society was founded to oppose the KK and was so named as 1892 was the year in which female students were first admitted.

[ja242]

For those interested in the Strafford Club

http://standrews.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2201941422

There's even an entry on Wikipedia.

Quoting Irish Frank from 13:07, 26th Apr 2006
could anybody clarify what the 1892 club is?

[Poindexter]

[b] It was founded in 1995 on Feb 6th.

Re-founded my man, re-founded.

[[James]]

Oh Christ.

[exnihilo]

Erm? Why has this come back?? But, as it has....

No, definitely founded. I know, I did it.

[Jono]

Wow! I was two pages into this one before I realised how old it was!

Just goes to show really. "The Sinner: Same old shit, just on a different night!"

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[Bizarre Atheist]

Quoting Jono from 03:25, 15th Sep 2007
Wow! I was two pages into this one before I realised how old it was!

Just goes to show really. "The Sinner: Same old shit, just on a different night!"

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You will write 1000 times 'I must not quote Nickleback song lyrics on The Sinner'

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[Jono]

little did the teacher realise that Copy and Paste have somewhat diminished the effeciveness of lines.

I'd always write lines out word by word.

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