religious idiocy

[strikethepose]

there is one thing that irritates me more than anything else. it makes me want to bang my head against the wall and SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAM.

religion

all you people out there who believe in god, fine, its a free country, if you want to be a complete idiot that is your choice and i will defend your right to have made that choice. it is religion that annoys me.no particular religion, just the entire concept.

what honestly is the point?





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[Blessed Benediction]

you know you're encouraging some religious folk to view their views on this thread & it might make you want to scream even more. you should've just screamed in the vocal way perhaps. unless you quite enjoy being in a state of wanting to scream, in which case carry this thread on.

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Aaaaargh. Page too wide!

[Blessed Benediction]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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page too long

sometimes it helps to take breaths
in the form of line breaks in
screams.

unless of course it was a deliberate
ploy so that some folk wouldn't be
able to locate the post link.

[hr]watches should have a smiley face on them as it's always time to be happy

[stan]

post link what post link?

[hr]if music be the food of life then radiohead be a spam sandwich.

[Wong]

I'm not even going to bother replying to this, even though I just have.

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I gave my life away - for the Iron Savior dream

[Zen]

do you by any chance to Moral philosophy? I've noticed similar reactions after tutorials etc.

[The_Farwall]

[s]strikethepose wrote on 18:41, 4th Mar 2003:
all you people out there who believe in god, fine, its a free country, if you want to be a complete idiot

I just wanted to point this out, so it doesn't seem that this thread is discriminating against agnostics and atheists. All you people out there who don't believe in god, fine, it'sa free country, you can also be a complete idiot.
As ably demonstrated here by strikethepose.

Has anyone else noticed how religion is brought up on the Sinner so much more often by people wingeing that they don't like it than by actual religious people singing its praises in the way that gets bitched about so much.
It's really very simple, if something annoys you, ignore or avoid it. Don't bring it up at every given opportunity, then maybe you can stop having such a hangup about it.
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and they forget why they like me
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[Miss Maryland]

[s]strikethepose wrote on 18:41, 4th Mar 2003:


religion

all you people out there who believe in god, fine, its a free country, if you want to be a complete idiot that is your choice and i will defend your right to have made that choice. it is religion that annoys me.no particular religion, just the entire concept.

what honestly is the point?




How about the idea that some people choose to be idiots? Because anti-religious people can be idiots too. Like the people who passionately believe that since I am a catholic, I am to blame for the Spanish Inquisition. Not that all non-religious people are idiots. The head priest of my parish is an idiot. It is easier to point fingers towards religious idiots than non-religious idiots if you are non-religious.



Have you read "Cat's Cradle" by Kurt Vonnegut? If you haven't, you should. I think you would like it alot. It adresses the problems with organized religion.


Live by the foma

[~evanescence~]

I completely agree with you Farwall. Ever notice how those same people are quick to assume you have some sort of religious intent if you dont agree with everything they say or do.

[s]The_Farwall wrote on 03:12, 5th Mar 2003:
[s]strikethepose wrote on 18:41, 4th Mar 2003:[i]

Has anyone else noticed how religion is brought up on the Sinner so much more often by people wingeing that they don't like it than by actual religious people singing its praises in the way that gets bitched about so much.
It's really very simple, if something annoys you, ignore or avoid it. Don't bring it up at every given opportunity, then maybe you can stop having such a hangup about it.

[strikethepose]

actually what i was saying that those who are religious are complete idiots. the other people who do idiotic things are just plain idiots...

[Cain]

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Have you read "Cat's Cradle" by Kurt Vonnegut? If you haven't, you should.


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Or, watch Kevin smith's Dogma.

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[Cloud]

I dont care about religion. If you want to be religious, go ahead! Why would that affect me? Just dont try and force your views on anyone else. I really hate the attitude of "Im catholic, you're protestant, Im right, you're wrong." What gives anyone the right to say that?? It works with all things - race, colour, gender, sexuality, what bloody football team you support, what trousers you are wearing!! Its pathetic in almost every way imaginable. Just get on with your own life for a change and leave people to get on with theirs.


Socially concious rant over

Cloud

[stan]

as an athiest ive never had problems with religion before, it was just there. it left me alone and i left it alone. then i made the big mistake of dating a protestant from east belfast and i quickly learnt the meaning of religious hatred and sectarianism.

heres a story to illustrate. the protestant belfast football team is called linfield who played a game against glasgow rangers in the summer, along we went. as a dopey athiest i assumed in this world of bigotry that two sets of protestant supporters would get on jolly well. they did, until a rangers sub came on and crossed himself as he walked on the pitch. ill not repeat what was said and all but i will point out that these two once friendly sets of supporters were now bitter enemies as one slagged of this poor catholic guy and one set defended their player. thankfully the projected missiles involved were not of the usual variety found in belfast.

now the above is not a pro catholic or pro protestant story. it is just a story and you can infer from it as you wish. my point is this, my recent experiences of religion have only served to push me further away from it and im often inclined nowadays to be derogatory towards extremists as ive only encountered none extremists and they were bad enough.

oh and dating the girl was not a big mistake because of her religious views.

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[Greebo]

Similar to stan - also as an atheist I never had a problem with religion either...til I heard about all the shit going on in America daily - mainly due to Christian fundamentalism.

Bastards like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell spouting off shite on a regular basis - them and their sheep, combined with creationists who attempt to undermine the entire scientific community with their pseudo-science REALLY PISSES ME OFF.

Course...can't group most religious people with them because the majority aren't like that.
However the reason you'll find non-religious people are pissed at religion is cos of things like the above (and stan's sectarian stuff too).

[Al]

I don't have a problem with religion or religious people. The problem I have is with people who claim to be religious but who prove, by their actions, to be anything but religious. It has always puzzled me as to why some of the most bigoted people claim that their religion justifies their behaviour. Just look at "Christian" fundamentalists and their hatred for anyone who isn't a fellow "Christian" fundamentalist. Wasn't the central message of Jesus' teaching one of love, compassion and tolerance? You wouldn't think so to hear some people rant and rave. Somewhere, in one of the Apocryphal books I think, Jesus is quoted as saying "Why do you call me Master and yet not do the things I say?" I wonder how many "Christians" through the ages would he have been pleased to acknowledge?

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[James]

[s]strikethepose wrote on 18:41, 4th Mar 2003:

all you people out there who believe in god, fine, its a free country, if you want to be a complete idiot that is your choice and i will defend your right to have made that choice. it is religion that annoys me.no particular religion, just the entire concept.

what honestly is the point?



And you start with the assumption that you're right - how extremely arrogant! Of course, people with religious beliefs might well think they're right - otherwise it'd be a rather pointless belief - but for you to say that they're idiots is to elevate yourself to the position of judge of others' beliefs, and a very crass one at that. If you can at all justify this self-given position, I'd be curious ... I'd love to know why on earth you think you have this right, and where you get off being so rude.

You've already said that we're all free to believe what we like ... why, then, do you dare to criticise people for excercising that freedom? I have said before, and will say again, that people should be allowed to explain/express their views (as you do) - but please have the decency to do it in a polite way. After all, there is an immense library of the philosophy of religion that consists, in the most part, of vastly differing BUT inoffensive material.

I know people of many different religions, agnostics and atheists, and few are as offensive as you. Anyway ... if you thought long enough, you'd realise that an equally impolite person from the other camp could reply to you in a similarly pugnacious way. That's why philosophy never stop - if both parties are sufficiently stubborn and rude, such a "discourse" could go on for ages.

[NicC]

Just an observation: it seems to me that what most of you are objecting to isn't religion itself, but the way religion gets used and abused. And the same can happen to any basically sound concept: would you tar all Darwinists with the same brush simply because it gave rise to ideas like eugenics, the need to stamp out "inferior" races, etc.?

Fact is, human beings can draw hatred and bigotry out of pretty much anything. It's a talent of our species. Blame human nature, not the ideas we corrupt.

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[Anon.]

[s]strikethepose wrote on 18:41, 4th Mar 2003:
all you people out there who believe in god, fine, its a free country, if you want to be a complete idiot...

You utter bigot! How can you post something like this?

[Biitchboy]

I'm not religious. But I don't have a problem with religion per se, its organised religion that fucks everything up. And in a way, atheism is a (non-organised) religion: it's a belief system like all the rest. Some people seem to think that atheism is an easy of life and Christians are superior due to their "strength of faith". Crap. Atheists need much more strength of belief in the courage to believe that there is no God, meaning they have to accept a potentially meaningless (in the grand scale of things) and finite life. I don't think saying there is no meaning to life devalues it tho, if anything, saying life is just chance, makes it more valuable. You're very luck to have it, and you only have it for a very short time (none of this afterlife nonsense) so the purpose of your life is therefore simply to enjoy it. This doesn't need to be amoralistic either, e.g humanism is very moral, like Christianity without the God and murder.

Anyway, bit of a tangent on a tangent, a bit of a venting process, soz.

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