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by GeorgeWBushSupporter on Mon Mar 03, 2003 10:19 am
[s]Rennie wrote on 13:09, 1st Mar 2003:
Fucking hell, 'georgewbushsupporter', i can't believe you're saying that it's ok for the palestinians to get fucked over just because 'god' gave them the land in the bible. If he gave them the land, why doesn't he smite all the Palestinians then and give the land back to the Israelis? Oh wait, maybe God had a hand in getting Ariel Sharon another term in power (a man who admits he went through refugee camps and killed thousands of people in the 1980's)
Surely God is a cunt?
#1. Yes. I'm saying it's ok for the palestinians to get fucked over because God gave the land to the Israelis. What the hell good are the palestinians anyways? All they do, is blow themselves up. Let them go back to Egypt or whatever land they're from.
#2. Sharon is doing a fine job of leading the Israelis and if you want to know the truth, he's a much more forgiving man than I would be had I been in his place. I wouldn't stop at just surrounding Arafat's compound or killing a few Hamas members. I'd kill every Palestinian I saw, because like I said before, all they are, is bomb toting, muslim fanatics.
#3. Lastly, I'm glad to hear you're so blasphemist towards our Lord. I'm sure he'll remember that come Judgement day, brother. No, I'm not a holy roller, but I am a God fearing man.
Fucking hell, 'georgewbushsupporter', i can't believe you're saying that it's ok for the palestinians to get fucked over just because 'god' gave them the land in the bible. If he gave them the land, why doesn't he smite all the Palestinians then and give the land back to the Israelis? Oh wait, maybe God had a hand in getting Ariel Sharon another term in power (a man who admits he went through refugee camps and killed thousands of people in the 1980's)
Surely God is a cunt?
#1. Yes. I'm saying it's ok for the palestinians to get fucked over because God gave the land to the Israelis. What the hell good are the palestinians anyways? All they do, is blow themselves up. Let them go back to Egypt or whatever land they're from.
#2. Sharon is doing a fine job of leading the Israelis and if you want to know the truth, he's a much more forgiving man than I would be had I been in his place. I wouldn't stop at just surrounding Arafat's compound or killing a few Hamas members. I'd kill every Palestinian I saw, because like I said before, all they are, is bomb toting, muslim fanatics.
#3. Lastly, I'm glad to hear you're so blasphemist towards our Lord. I'm sure he'll remember that come Judgement day, brother. No, I'm not a holy roller, but I am a God fearing man.
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to kill an american
by drone on Mon Mar 03, 2003 10:23 am
To kill an American....
You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper
an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.
So an Australian dentist wrote the following to let everyone know what an American is, so they would know when they found one:
An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish,
Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican,
African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or
Arab, or Pakistani, or Afghan. An American may also be a Cherokee,
Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.
An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim.
In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only
difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses. An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the
government and for God.
An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the world.
The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person the pursuit of happiness.
An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every
other nation in the world in their time of need.When Afghanistan was
overrun by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and
supplies to enable the people to win back their country. As of the morning
of September 11, 2001, Americans had given more than any other nation to
the poor in Afghanistan.
Americans welcome the best, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best athletes. But they also welcome the
least. The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America. Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. I've been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 other countries,
cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.
So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and every bloodthirsty
tyrant in the history of the world. But, in doing so you would just be
killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a
particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of
freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.
You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper
an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.
So an Australian dentist wrote the following to let everyone know what an American is, so they would know when they found one:
An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish,
Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican,
African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or
Arab, or Pakistani, or Afghan. An American may also be a Cherokee,
Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.
An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim.
In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only
difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses. An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the
government and for God.
An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the world.
The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person the pursuit of happiness.
An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every
other nation in the world in their time of need.When Afghanistan was
overrun by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and
supplies to enable the people to win back their country. As of the morning
of September 11, 2001, Americans had given more than any other nation to
the poor in Afghanistan.
Americans welcome the best, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best athletes. But they also welcome the
least. The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America. Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. I've been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 other countries,
cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.
So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and every bloodthirsty
tyrant in the history of the world. But, in doing so you would just be
killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a
particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of
freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.
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drone
To the ignorant liberal
by Andy_Bayley on Mon Mar 03, 2003 10:25 am
lets go point by point since you
"The civilian death toll in Iraq has been caused by extensive bombings and by our trade sanctions. These sanctions are the only reason why the Iraqi people are so firmly behind their despotic leader. They are being starved and bombed by America and Britain, and Saddam voices their defiance. If we had not imposed the sanctions, Iraq would probably not be under Saddam now. Funny how America is is so keen on the free market as an alleviator of poverty, except when it comes to sanctioning countries it doesn't like - the Cuban and North Korean people have hardly benefited from such sanctions. All theses sanctions have done is strengthen popular support for harmful regimes. Remember how Hitler rose to power?"
First of all the "extensive bombings" are protecting the resistence movements in the north and south by not allowing saddam to bomb his citizens that dont support him that was always the idea behind the no fly zone.
Im against sanctions to but take your pick war or sanctions. Or perhaps we can just surrender and let saddam get all the wepons he wants.
"And would I rather live in Iraq than Britain? No, but I'd far rather live there than as a Palestinian in our old mate Israel. When are we going to stand up to Israeli brutality, my morally crusading friend? Simple answer - never. It's not in our best interests."
Yes because isrealis torture children to get to parents. Isralies do the best they can to deal with the situation there neither side is 100 percent right, but if your citizens were being attacked everyday you'd take some vigilince to.
"Show us the proof. If you send weapons inspectors in, you have to trust their judgment, otherwise what's the point?"
here is information about a former iraqi nuclear defector http://ask.com/main/metaAnswer.asp?t=ai ... g=1&qsrc=0
No one doubts saddam wants nukes why do you think he was working on making a nuclear power plant when his country could obviously be powered by fossil fuel which is much cheaper.
"Yes, let's look on the bigger scale. The people of Iraq will clearly thank us when we've installed our military leadership, disguised as a democracy, having killed most of their men and by accident a good number of their women and children. They'll love us. Wake up! This is no campaign of liberation - British military sources are convinced that taking Iraq will create a sullen people waiting to take revenge."
If we wanted to take over Iraq we could have done it in the first war. Look at japan, south korea, afghanistan is a work in proggress but we do not take over countries we liberate them.
"Yes, Afghanistan is such a successful democracy now we've blitzed it. Think again. It's as bad as it ever was, with clerics and warlords ruling the roost, women back in burkas and people in poverty. Why? Because we spent 15 billion US dollars on the war, and only 6m in restructuring Afghanistan."
Its not going to happen over night but it is far better than it was two years ago. The US spent all the money liberating it you other countries can lend a hand and pay for a little of the reconstruction yourself
"How much money do you really think it costs to fund a suicide bomber? As much as it costs to buy some wires and fertiliser, pretty much. Peace will never happen in Israel until Israel moves off Palestinian soil. If your friends or family had been butchered by American-made M16-toting Israeli soldiers because they tried to cross into the neighbouring village to get some food, and all you had to fight with was sticks and stones, wouldn't you fight back however you could?"
Your obviously a militant arab, isreal leaving cant happen palistinians leaving cant happen there has to be a middle ground that they can come to. The bombs themself dont cost much but one of the reasons so many people are willing to do that is they are so poor and their families are taken care of by these terrorist groups
"It's this simple. Our motives in the Middle East have never been altruistic, and it is incredibly naive to think the are now. Only support war if you'd be happy to die for the cause yourself; I know that I wouldn't want to die in this one."
I would die for this cause it is a noble goal to bring freedom to the world. Im not in the military at the moment because I feel I am doing more for my country working in public service but should the time come where are country needs more troops I would willingly go serve my country.
"The civilian death toll in Iraq has been caused by extensive bombings and by our trade sanctions. These sanctions are the only reason why the Iraqi people are so firmly behind their despotic leader. They are being starved and bombed by America and Britain, and Saddam voices their defiance. If we had not imposed the sanctions, Iraq would probably not be under Saddam now. Funny how America is is so keen on the free market as an alleviator of poverty, except when it comes to sanctioning countries it doesn't like - the Cuban and North Korean people have hardly benefited from such sanctions. All theses sanctions have done is strengthen popular support for harmful regimes. Remember how Hitler rose to power?"
First of all the "extensive bombings" are protecting the resistence movements in the north and south by not allowing saddam to bomb his citizens that dont support him that was always the idea behind the no fly zone.
Im against sanctions to but take your pick war or sanctions. Or perhaps we can just surrender and let saddam get all the wepons he wants.
"And would I rather live in Iraq than Britain? No, but I'd far rather live there than as a Palestinian in our old mate Israel. When are we going to stand up to Israeli brutality, my morally crusading friend? Simple answer - never. It's not in our best interests."
Yes because isrealis torture children to get to parents. Isralies do the best they can to deal with the situation there neither side is 100 percent right, but if your citizens were being attacked everyday you'd take some vigilince to.
"Show us the proof. If you send weapons inspectors in, you have to trust their judgment, otherwise what's the point?"
here is information about a former iraqi nuclear defector http://ask.com/main/metaAnswer.asp?t=ai ... g=1&qsrc=0
No one doubts saddam wants nukes why do you think he was working on making a nuclear power plant when his country could obviously be powered by fossil fuel which is much cheaper.
"Yes, let's look on the bigger scale. The people of Iraq will clearly thank us when we've installed our military leadership, disguised as a democracy, having killed most of their men and by accident a good number of their women and children. They'll love us. Wake up! This is no campaign of liberation - British military sources are convinced that taking Iraq will create a sullen people waiting to take revenge."
If we wanted to take over Iraq we could have done it in the first war. Look at japan, south korea, afghanistan is a work in proggress but we do not take over countries we liberate them.
"Yes, Afghanistan is such a successful democracy now we've blitzed it. Think again. It's as bad as it ever was, with clerics and warlords ruling the roost, women back in burkas and people in poverty. Why? Because we spent 15 billion US dollars on the war, and only 6m in restructuring Afghanistan."
Its not going to happen over night but it is far better than it was two years ago. The US spent all the money liberating it you other countries can lend a hand and pay for a little of the reconstruction yourself
"How much money do you really think it costs to fund a suicide bomber? As much as it costs to buy some wires and fertiliser, pretty much. Peace will never happen in Israel until Israel moves off Palestinian soil. If your friends or family had been butchered by American-made M16-toting Israeli soldiers because they tried to cross into the neighbouring village to get some food, and all you had to fight with was sticks and stones, wouldn't you fight back however you could?"
Your obviously a militant arab, isreal leaving cant happen palistinians leaving cant happen there has to be a middle ground that they can come to. The bombs themself dont cost much but one of the reasons so many people are willing to do that is they are so poor and their families are taken care of by these terrorist groups
"It's this simple. Our motives in the Middle East have never been altruistic, and it is incredibly naive to think the are now. Only support war if you'd be happy to die for the cause yourself; I know that I wouldn't want to die in this one."
I would die for this cause it is a noble goal to bring freedom to the world. Im not in the military at the moment because I feel I am doing more for my country working in public service but should the time come where are country needs more troops I would willingly go serve my country.
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Andy_Bayley
To Kill an American Article
by M1 Garand on Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:14 am
Very Good Article....Give all those people burning American flags in the streets something to think about...I for one have always been and will always be a Proud American.
[hr]"There is a certain enthusiasm in liberty, that makes human nature rise above itself, in acts of bravery and heroism."
-Alexander Hamilton, 1775
[hr]"There is a certain enthusiasm in liberty, that makes human nature rise above itself, in acts of bravery and heroism."
-Alexander Hamilton, 1775
"There is a certain enthusiasm in liberty, that makes human nature rise above itself, in acts of bravery and heroism."
-Alexander Hamilton, 1775
-Alexander Hamilton, 1775
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by kensson on Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:53 am
I am not anti-America. Nor am I pro-Saddam. I am anti-stupidity. I am anti-brutality. I am very much pro-peace.
I repeat points I have made many time on this thread:
- Since 1945, the USA has bombed nineteen countries. (http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=3141 ) None of these campaigns led directly to a humane, stable democracy.
- Most of these wars have led to large numbers of civilian casualties and refugee crises.
- Backing an unstable madman with biological weapons into a corner where he has nothing to lose by using them is a less-sensible course of action than allowing him to disarm slowly and peacefully.
- If Saddam Hussein bullies his people into supporting him that is tyranny.
- If the US bullies poor nations on the Security Council into supporting it, then that is, um, diplomacy?
- Moreover, if the war is as just as the politicians pushing for it insist, why are so many moral people against it? Nelson Mandela. Norman Schwarzkopf. Jesse Jackson. The Archbishop of Canterbury. Me. Ken Livingstone. 10,000,000 marchers around the world. (For a start.)
- The reasons for a war have changed and changed and changed: Iraq has links with al-Qa'eda! (No evidence for that so...) Saddam is a threat! Saddam has WMD! Saddam is a nasty man! These are not reasons for war. They are excuses.
- I do not believe that the best course of action in a highly sensitive and volatile region is to rush in with guns blazing. This is only half-serious: http://www.idleworm.com/nws/2002/11/iraq2.shtml
- Mr. Bush says he doesn't want a war. Let's not have one, then.
[hr]My policy towards the USA remains one of regime change
I repeat points I have made many time on this thread:
- Since 1945, the USA has bombed nineteen countries. (http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=3141 ) None of these campaigns led directly to a humane, stable democracy.
- Most of these wars have led to large numbers of civilian casualties and refugee crises.
- Backing an unstable madman with biological weapons into a corner where he has nothing to lose by using them is a less-sensible course of action than allowing him to disarm slowly and peacefully.
- If Saddam Hussein bullies his people into supporting him that is tyranny.
- If the US bullies poor nations on the Security Council into supporting it, then that is, um, diplomacy?
- Moreover, if the war is as just as the politicians pushing for it insist, why are so many moral people against it? Nelson Mandela. Norman Schwarzkopf. Jesse Jackson. The Archbishop of Canterbury. Me. Ken Livingstone. 10,000,000 marchers around the world. (For a start.)
- The reasons for a war have changed and changed and changed: Iraq has links with al-Qa'eda! (No evidence for that so...) Saddam is a threat! Saddam has WMD! Saddam is a nasty man! These are not reasons for war. They are excuses.
- I do not believe that the best course of action in a highly sensitive and volatile region is to rush in with guns blazing. This is only half-serious: http://www.idleworm.com/nws/2002/11/iraq2.shtml
- Mr. Bush says he doesn't want a war. Let's not have one, then.
[hr]My policy towards the USA remains one of regime change
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by stan on Mon Mar 03, 2003 12:37 pm
i agree with much of what kensson just said however i feel the arguement is biased despite his protests to the other. for this i refer readers to his opening sentence and then to his signature. contradiction or just unfortunate coincidence?
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by kensson on Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:00 pm
My signature is intended more to make people think about the idea of changing regimes - who is Mr. Bush to decide that someone else is an unfit ruler?
In any case, it's not an anti-American sentiment, simply that I'd prefer somebody else to be in charge.
Of course my argument is biased, but I'm trying to make my points as calmly and politely as possible rather than on a 'Saddam sucks!' 'No, America sucks!' level.
[hr]My policy towards the USA remains one of regime change
In any case, it's not an anti-American sentiment, simply that I'd prefer somebody else to be in charge.
Of course my argument is biased, but I'm trying to make my points as calmly and politely as possible rather than on a 'Saddam sucks!' 'No, America sucks!' level.
[hr]My policy towards the USA remains one of regime change
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by harmless loony on Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:04 pm
george W bush supporter - if u wana go back to 5000 yrs ago - why dont the americans vacate the land they took from the american indians?? And why dont the "americans" go back to where they came from?? ie: europe, etc.
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by Andy_Bayley on Mon Mar 03, 2003 5:05 pm
this is to kenneson
"I am not anti-America. Nor am I pro-Saddam. I am anti-stupidity. I am anti-brutality. I am very much pro-peace.
I repeat points I have made many time on this thread:
- Since 1945, the USA has bombed nineteen countries. (http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=3141 ) None of these campaigns led directly to a humane, stable democracy.
- Most of these wars have led to large numbers of civilian casualties and refugee crises.
- Backing an unstable madman with biological weapons into a corner where he has nothing to lose by using them is a less-sensible course of action than allowing him to disarm slowly and peacefully.
- If Saddam Hussein bullies his people into supporting him that is tyranny.
- If the US bullies poor nations on the Security Council into supporting it, then that is, um, diplomacy?
- Moreover, if the war is as just as the politicians pushing for it insist, why are so many moral people against it? Nelson Mandela. Norman Schwarzkopf. Jesse Jackson. The Archbishop of Canterbury. Me. Ken Livingstone. 10,000,000 marchers around the world. (For a start.)
- The reasons for a war have changed and changed and changed: Iraq has links with al-Qa'eda! (No evidence for that so...) Saddam is a threat! Saddam has WMD! Saddam is a nasty man! These are not reasons for war. They are excuses.
- I do not believe that the best course of action in a highly sensitive and volatile region is to rush in with guns blazing. This is only half-serious: http://www.idleworm.com/nws/2002/11/iraq2.shtml
- Mr. Bush says he doesn't want a war. Let's not have one, then"
Im not saying the US is perfect we have made some mistakes overs the past 50 years but to me it seems you anti war people confuse your dislike for america and whether this war is just.
You quoted people against the war. Nelson Mandella is anti american and for the most part anti white people. Jesse jackson just likes to have his name heard. Norman Swartzkoph was misquoted he said he would rather go to war with a large coalition then unilaterally. 10 million marchers out of 4 billion people.
And how could you possibly find moral equivency between the torture and rape of iraqis and pressuring countries to vote our way.
also I agree its scary that what will saddam do when he has nothing else to lose but thats the whole reason to go in not to avoid the situation. I remember reading an article of an interview of a defecter who knew him well, cant remember the article but it said Saddam sees himself as the second coming of Nebuchanezzer and doesnt see the need for a world after hes gone. Whats to say hes on his death bed in ten years except now he has nukes and he decides to just start blowing up countries.
The question is who will not be better off without saddam hussien?
the only answer i can think of is france.
"I am not anti-America. Nor am I pro-Saddam. I am anti-stupidity. I am anti-brutality. I am very much pro-peace.
I repeat points I have made many time on this thread:
- Since 1945, the USA has bombed nineteen countries. (http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=3141 ) None of these campaigns led directly to a humane, stable democracy.
- Most of these wars have led to large numbers of civilian casualties and refugee crises.
- Backing an unstable madman with biological weapons into a corner where he has nothing to lose by using them is a less-sensible course of action than allowing him to disarm slowly and peacefully.
- If Saddam Hussein bullies his people into supporting him that is tyranny.
- If the US bullies poor nations on the Security Council into supporting it, then that is, um, diplomacy?
- Moreover, if the war is as just as the politicians pushing for it insist, why are so many moral people against it? Nelson Mandela. Norman Schwarzkopf. Jesse Jackson. The Archbishop of Canterbury. Me. Ken Livingstone. 10,000,000 marchers around the world. (For a start.)
- The reasons for a war have changed and changed and changed: Iraq has links with al-Qa'eda! (No evidence for that so...) Saddam is a threat! Saddam has WMD! Saddam is a nasty man! These are not reasons for war. They are excuses.
- I do not believe that the best course of action in a highly sensitive and volatile region is to rush in with guns blazing. This is only half-serious: http://www.idleworm.com/nws/2002/11/iraq2.shtml
- Mr. Bush says he doesn't want a war. Let's not have one, then"
Im not saying the US is perfect we have made some mistakes overs the past 50 years but to me it seems you anti war people confuse your dislike for america and whether this war is just.
You quoted people against the war. Nelson Mandella is anti american and for the most part anti white people. Jesse jackson just likes to have his name heard. Norman Swartzkoph was misquoted he said he would rather go to war with a large coalition then unilaterally. 10 million marchers out of 4 billion people.
And how could you possibly find moral equivency between the torture and rape of iraqis and pressuring countries to vote our way.
also I agree its scary that what will saddam do when he has nothing else to lose but thats the whole reason to go in not to avoid the situation. I remember reading an article of an interview of a defecter who knew him well, cant remember the article but it said Saddam sees himself as the second coming of Nebuchanezzer and doesnt see the need for a world after hes gone. Whats to say hes on his death bed in ten years except now he has nukes and he decides to just start blowing up countries.
The question is who will not be better off without saddam hussien?
the only answer i can think of is france.
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by Al on Mon Mar 03, 2003 6:41 pm
"#1. Yes. I'm saying it's ok for the palestinians to get fucked over because God gave the land to the Israelis."
Whenever this piece of idiocy arises, I think of the unanswered question - if "God" gave the land to the Israelis, then why has he stood by so many times throughout history and let "the land" be taken away from the Jews?
Besides is it not written in the Book Of Al (written by me, incidentally) that the entire world belongs to Al and his people?
"What the hell good are the palestinians anyways? All they do, is blow themselves up."
So why are the Israelis so hostile to them?
"Let them go back to Egypt or whatever land they're from."
See, it's quite easy to remember. Palestinians come from Palestine. Not Egypt. That would make them Egyptians.
"#2. Sharon is doing a fine job of leading the Israelis and if you want to know the truth, he's a much more forgiving man than I would be had I been in his place."
I imagine just about anyone would be more forgiving than you.
"I wouldn't stop at just surrounding Arafat's compound or killing a few Hamas members."
That's OK, the Israeli army and government have the same "idea".
"I'd kill every Palestinian I saw, because like I said before, all they are, is bomb toting, muslim fanatics."
What? The Christian Palestinians are really Muslim?
#3. Lastly, I'm glad to hear you're so blasphemist towards our Lord."
"Blasphemist"? Are there not enough existing words in the English language for you to express your idiocy?
"I'm sure he'll remember that come Judgement day, brother. No, I'm not a holy roller, but I am a God fearing man"
Why would a god fear man?
Oh I see - you were trying to write God-fearing. What god would this be? The god of morons? Certainly not the Judaeo-Christian God.
Whenever this piece of idiocy arises, I think of the unanswered question - if "God" gave the land to the Israelis, then why has he stood by so many times throughout history and let "the land" be taken away from the Jews?
Besides is it not written in the Book Of Al (written by me, incidentally) that the entire world belongs to Al and his people?
"What the hell good are the palestinians anyways? All they do, is blow themselves up."
So why are the Israelis so hostile to them?
"Let them go back to Egypt or whatever land they're from."
See, it's quite easy to remember. Palestinians come from Palestine. Not Egypt. That would make them Egyptians.
"#2. Sharon is doing a fine job of leading the Israelis and if you want to know the truth, he's a much more forgiving man than I would be had I been in his place."
I imagine just about anyone would be more forgiving than you.
"I wouldn't stop at just surrounding Arafat's compound or killing a few Hamas members."
That's OK, the Israeli army and government have the same "idea".
"I'd kill every Palestinian I saw, because like I said before, all they are, is bomb toting, muslim fanatics."
What? The Christian Palestinians are really Muslim?
#3. Lastly, I'm glad to hear you're so blasphemist towards our Lord."
"Blasphemist"? Are there not enough existing words in the English language for you to express your idiocy?
"I'm sure he'll remember that come Judgement day, brother. No, I'm not a holy roller, but I am a God fearing man"
Why would a god fear man?
Oh I see - you were trying to write God-fearing. What god would this be? The god of morons? Certainly not the Judaeo-Christian God.
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by Mark on Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:41 pm
Al - don't bother trying. I try to be a reasonable man, but anyone who genuinely believes in Creationism (and, by the Lord, there're a few of them out there still) simply isn't worth reasoning with, because they won't respond.
Oh, and to 'Georgewbushsupporter';
so God gave the land to the Israelis, did He? Two words; Prove It.
Firstly, just try to establish any link beyond geography between the Biblical children of Israel and the modern Israeli state. Go on...try it. THERE ISN'T ONE. THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL IS ONE OF FAIRLY RECENT POLITICAL CONVENIENCE, NOT A COUNTRY BASED ON ANY KIND OF BIBLICAL HERITAGE. DEAL WITH IT.
There. That's that one.
Secondly, what kind of twisted mind can move from "Thou Shalt Not Kill" (er...one of the more significant Commandments given to Moses' people, in case you'd forgotten in all the excitement) to, and I quote,
"I'd kill every Palestinian I saw".
For fuck's sake. You're a twat. Here endeth the lesson.
Transmission ends.
Oh, and to 'Georgewbushsupporter';
so God gave the land to the Israelis, did He? Two words; Prove It.
Firstly, just try to establish any link beyond geography between the Biblical children of Israel and the modern Israeli state. Go on...try it. THERE ISN'T ONE. THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL IS ONE OF FAIRLY RECENT POLITICAL CONVENIENCE, NOT A COUNTRY BASED ON ANY KIND OF BIBLICAL HERITAGE. DEAL WITH IT.
There. That's that one.
Secondly, what kind of twisted mind can move from "Thou Shalt Not Kill" (er...one of the more significant Commandments given to Moses' people, in case you'd forgotten in all the excitement) to, and I quote,
"I'd kill every Palestinian I saw".
For fuck's sake. You're a twat. Here endeth the lesson.
Transmission ends.
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Re:
by Anon. on Mon Mar 03, 2003 10:08 pm
[s]Mark wrote on 19:41, 3rd Mar 2003:
...but anyone who genuinely believes in Creationism (and, by the Lord, there're a few of them out there still) simply isn't worth reasoning with, because they won't respond.
Oh, I say, to say anyone who g. b. in C. isn't worth reasoning with is a bit strong. I rather think I do, and I would like to think I'm a fairly reasonable sort of person.
...but anyone who genuinely believes in Creationism (and, by the Lord, there're a few of them out there still) simply isn't worth reasoning with, because they won't respond.
Oh, I say, to say anyone who g. b. in C. isn't worth reasoning with is a bit strong. I rather think I do, and I would like to think I'm a fairly reasonable sort of person.
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