i just need to know.....

[quarterstaff]

why don't you just hurryup and do what is obviously going to be done at some point in this thread anyway -

go through the thread and anyone who sounded interesting, bramble, and arrange to meet them!

simple!

[LonelyPilgrim]

Why no nice guys?

Well, I can only speak for myself, but since I'm not much of a drinker (a glass of wine over dinner is about all I do) or a partier I'm rarely at the usual haunts.

Likewise, while I enjoy hiking and canoeing back home, I'm not much into competitive sports... and there never seems to be enough time to pursue my normal interests.

So, for me, I'd like a girl who is intelligent, attractive, and of good humour, who doesn't really do the drinking/debauchery scene and who likes to take walks or just watch movies or some such in her spare time.

I'm sure you can see where this is going... I don't go looking for girls because girls I would be interested in would general not be out and about to be found.

I suspect the same is true for a bunch of nice guys... we don't go out looking because what we would be looking for would not be likely to be out there. Bit depressing, actually.

[quarterstaff]

i must say that although the ratio in this town is in favour of men seeking women, single sex groups seem to always develop.


where do all the pretty, snart girls hide????! do they all work hard on your degrees and socialise minimally?
i noticed a SIGNIFICANT increase in the number of hot hot hotties aboput the town or raisin weekend... and the library is always full of nice looking girls... i think all the nice girls are too busy getting their degrees at the detriment of living their lives.

[bramble]

but im shy!! i think sometimes because im tall people assume im really outgoing!! Plus im not really into partying and rarely drink but i still like to have a good time!! i think im a mixture of both, i mean i live in the county at home and love riding and walks etc and love nothing more than watching movies but i also like going out and socialising otherwise i'd go stir crazy!! i'd hope there were more people like me out there!! Oh and i didnt really do this to meet people, just get peoples opinions, but have been very pleased by all the nice people responding!!


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[LonelyPilgrim]

Here's a question for the nice guys and gals out there: How many of you are shy and how many are just reserved?

I don't consider myself shy, but then again, I don't like to just introduce myself to people... I'm not scared of rejection, I just don't like to bother people. So, if I don't have an excuse to start a conversation (ie. "So, explain to me again why I should buy two copies of the Saint today... "), I generally won't.

By the way, I'm country raised myself, except where I come from we don't have pubs, clubs, or things like the bop... which probably explains my like for outdoors entertainment and my aversion to loud music and drunk people.

[Ahndru]

[s]LonelyPilgrim wrote on 14:58, 27th Nov 2004:[/s

1/ Human minds don't generally obey rules and if they do, seldom more than one... So all these guidelines etc ...

{EDIT: say I... and then put up more guidelines... :p}

2/ 'Nice guys'... guys who try to understand other people...? (guys/girls alike?) Well generally that ends up in the impression (on the guys' side at least) that girls don't really like random blokes walking up to them and starting a conversation out of the blue...

3/ Relationships/one-night-stands? I noticed earlier on in the posts that someone was saying 'girls have needs just like guys' (or however that was phrased) Well if that's the case, don't fret, find a cutie and go whammo. Who cares if he's really nice or just average nice. (yeah, no, don't end up with a complete idiot) Note that 'nice' guys will not often actively go for the one-nighters - although they'll take it if it has to be that way.

4/ Height is not a pb if it's not too great - 1 or 2 inches okay but after that it feels akward... stupid to say I'll allow, but hey... some people still have that in them...

5/ Shyness: I'm not exactly shy - I won't back away from anyone unless they are clearly not on the same wave-length - but I'll confess, when it comes to girls and saying what's on my mind.... yeah, fear of rejection is quite daunting... How about this: don't try to play hard to get. It's a turn off for alot of more 'reasonable' men (as in, guys who won't try to snog you come-what-may-and-by-all-means).

6/ Places? Well start with the societies that are more 'culture' then 'shat-facing'. "Old men's" pubs aren't a too bad idea. But whoever said the Sinner.net... no. just... no. Not over the virtual heck.

7/ Don't despair...

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[Scellanis]

[s]LonelyPilgrim wrote on 14:58, 27th Nov 2004:
Here's a question for the nice guys and gals out there: How many of you are shy and how many are just reserved?



Hmm, not sure if I count as nice but I'm definately extremely shy...

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[bramble]

is there much of a difference between shy and reserved? i think they kinda go hand in hand! im both, unless on the rare times when im totally wasted then im neither!!

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[Cain]

[s]bramble wrote on 00:21, 24th Nov 2004:
if there are ANY hot single straight men in St. Andrews? Because from my latest experiences it really appears not!! Surely the ratio of men to women really cant be that bad?!


As a member of the aforementioned group, i feel i should comment.

i don't go in for nights out and pulling people.

I prefer to get to know somebody first, then see if there's any mutual interest.

unfortunately, that works quite badly, as anbody who knows any ladder theory will be able to tell you. As part of my "getting to know people to find out if we fancy each other" strategy, i end up placed firmly in the friends category.

while it is nice to be recognised as being a lovely guy, and have lots of people say "you're going to make some girl really lucky some day," (or words to that effect) that doesn't get translated into actual interest by anybody, probably because i'm stuck as a friend.

A few of us tried to kick start a speed dating thing in the summer to go on in this semester, but the general reaction seemed to be "i'm single, not desperate." There's one planned for semester 2 as part of rag week i believe (based on things that i half remember from the summer)

The same goes for the personals board. I wrote an ad a few weeks ago (with my other account) and had a limited response, including "If you're so great why do you have to write a personals ad on the sinner?" the general attitude to it isn't overwhelmingly positive, made worse by the threads that want either a reaction or just a fuckbuddy.

so... what are we sinner singles going to do about it?

sinner singles night?

make use of the personals ad board? or match.com?

single and interested ladies contact me through my profile?

best of luck to everybody.

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[bramble]

Whats really hard is to get to know someone when youre not meeting any people outside your existing friendship group!! How do you go about that? As a third year its hard to meet new people without doing the aforementioned going out or - shock horror - starting scary conversations with new people!!
On the subject of speed dating, nights out etc, instead of a singles nite there really should just be a sinner night out where all the regular posters can go and meet up or something?
But then i'd no longer be a mystery woman...

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[Scellanis]

You know, I think about the only way to get me on a date would be to take me to an internet cafe or something and talk to me through MSN mesenger... I really am that shy that I would not speak.

*giggles*

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[Prophet Tenebrae]

It has happened before... one might hope it happens again. We really ought to arrange that stuff before the end of term because that would be super.

Anyway, I thought the speed dating thing was happening soon? Or has that simply exploded into a mass of shattered dreams?

[bramble]

we should definately have a Christmas party or nite out before the end of term!!
Unfortunately i havent heard about any speeddating night, it sounds like fun though, i suppose us shy ppl would HAVE to talk so its definately a good idea!!

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[Thackary]

How about Friday 10th?

Sinner night out?
Or maybe a Sinner Dinner?

[LonelyPilgrim]

I think the idea of a gathering sounds like a wonderful idea. Should we perhaps get some folk in charge of organizing, maybe start a new thread?

[Guest]

Maybve you're just to attractive and blokes are scared off. C'est la vie.

[bramble]

Ok whos good at taking charge then? And we should definately start a new thread!!! What should we call it?
A dinner followed by drinks would be great, coz then it would include everyone who doesnt really drink too!

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[quarterstaff]

or sinner house parties?

am not volunteering my house... but i could be persuaded, i guess.


well, its nice to see some actuall ideas flying about for a change!

[kevwired]

A party.......Please remember to send me an invite

[Rilla]

I nominate bramble to get things organised.