Observations about Orientation/Pre-sesh this year?

[niall]

[s]munchingfoo wrote on 09:11, 11th Oct 2004:
Secondly, you obviously weren't there when the Javine CD skipped when she was 'singing'



funny, that Javine didnt use a CD.....

Nothing skipped during Javine, otherwise i would've noticed, being as i was sound engineer for the evening.


(and now that you know what position i was in during those nights, maybe you'll listen to me?)

[niall]

[s]munchingfoo wrote on 09:11, 11th Oct 2004:
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Cheaper beer isn't going to be an option - the union sells it as cheap as it can already.


Read the union's message board and perhaps your ignorance of this topic may depart for a brief while. The price was increased under a recomendation from the licensing board.
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so i'll rephrase what ethan said,

Cheaper beer isn't going to be an option - the union already sells it as cheaply as it leagally can


that better?

[munchingfoo]

Not really. It is not a legal matter. This was also discussed on that post. A recomendation is not set in stone. I appreciate there may be difficulties involved but there was no direct contact from the LB saying you MUST put up prices, as far as I can see from the thread.

The bit about Javine skipping I read from the sinner. I will try and find the link.

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[Nell]

If you belive everything you read here, then you are the fool.

[munchingfoo]

It was from someone who said they were on Ents. Maybe it was at Tiffany. They said they jumped of the satge and it skipped or something like that.

Can't find the link.

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[Representation @ Your Uni]

[s]md25 wrote on 22:36, 10th Oct 2004:
Why are the Union's alcohol prices so high relative to other unions? Is it just economies of scale or, for example, are the drinkers subsidising the union's other activities?



The block grant received from the university is roughly £158,000. It has been the exact same cash amount for the past three years. The increase that was received at that point was exactly enough to cover an expected increase in heat and power costs, which the Students' Association purchases from the university.
In 1995, when there were far fewer students, it was £220,000.

The costs of providing our representational functions (plus socs funding, etc) are about £300,000, so the bars and events are subsidising other activities to the tune of about £140,000.

[Ethan With]

[s]munchingfoo wrote on 09:11, 11th Oct 2004:
Firstly, if you could actualy read you would see quite clearly that it is the big money payed to the artists themselves and not the door price to which I refered.

Your use of language is ambiguous. Your statement could have been read either way. To avoid future confusion, please make better use of the English language.


Secondly, you obviously weren't there when the Javine CD skipped when she was 'singing'


Tiffany was singing to a backing CD - none of the discs that the artists brought with them had any lyrics on (other than Tim Westwood's)
I think that you're referring to Tiffany's CD skipping, and understandably, her singing faltered slightly.


Read the union's message board and perhaps your ignorance of this topic may depart for a brief while. The price was increased under a recomendation from the licensing board.


Show the post in which the students' association states that the prices were increased due to a recommendation from the licensing board, and I'll start to give your replies a little more merit.


Since nothing you said was correct or relevant I must assume you are a fool.
Good day.


Since your replies were littered with spelling and grammatical errors, I must assume that you aren't well educated enough to hold a decent argument.


(Edited to reflect Niall's earlier post about Javine not using a CD)

[md25]

[s]Representation @ Your Union wrote on 10:20, 11th Oct 2004:
The block grant received from the university is roughly £158,000. It has been the exact same cash amount for the past three years. The increase that was received at that point was exactly enough to cover an expected increase in heat and power costs, which the Students' Association purchases from the university.
In 1995, when there were far fewer students, it was £220,000.

The costs of providing our representational functions (plus socs funding, etc) are about £300,000, so the bars and events are subsidising other activities to the tune of about £140,000.

Ah, so it's down to the Uni freezing (with inflation factored in, cutting) the money they give to the Union then?

With the God-only-knows amount they're getting for Hamilton you'd think they could cough up an extra hundred grand or so...

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You'd be surprised if you knew the extent of the University's financial situation.

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[Wong]

Are you going to tell us?

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[Representation @ Your Uni]

[s]md25 wrote on 12:06, 11th Oct 2004:Ah, so it's down to the Uni freezing (with inflation factored in, cutting) the money they give to the Union then?

With the God-only-knows amount they're getting for Hamilton you'd think they could cough up an extra hundred grand or so...



The money coming from the sale of Hamilton Hall is a one-off, which the university is, quite rightly, refusing to spend on running costs.

There has been a fairly generous settlement this year from the Scottish Executive, so the university is not quite as cash strapped as it usually is. What does need to be remembered is that while our real-terms grant per student is less than half what it was in 1990, the university also receives (from the Funding Councils) less than half what it was getting per student back then. The university loses a substantial amount of money on every EU undergraduate student that it has.

Simon is working on the strategic plan, part of which will set out exactly what we believe the university should be funding, and I do think that with the university's new emphasis on "Student Experience" (does anybody have any ideas on a tag line for that...) there is a good possibility that the situation won't be as bad this time next year.

[md25]

I see. I've got (yet another...) question...: How bad is the uni's funding situation? I've heard people say that they're in the red to the tune of £15m and the rate at which they're losing money is accelerating, is this true or another unfounded rumour?

[Representation @ Your Uni]

[s]md25 wrote on 16:26, 11th Oct 2004:
I see. I've got (yet another...) question...: How bad is the uni's funding situation? I've heard people say that they're in the red to the tune of £15m and the rate at which they're losing money is accelerating, is this true or another unfounded rumour?



I think the best person to ask questions of that sort to is Derek Watson, Quaestor & Factor, but for questions of that nature, the answer will depend on the value of "lose".

[munchingfoo]

Is the union considered a charity as far as it's accounts go, like the uni?

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[Representation @ Your Uni]

[s]munchingfoo wrote on 16:39, 11th Oct 2004:
Is the union considered a charity as far as it's accounts go, like the uni?



Yes. If you would like a copy of the accounts, it's probably easiest to get them from the secretaries in the general office.

[md25]

I dug up the Uni's accounts, which they've put on the Internet: http://foi.st-andrews.ac.uk/Publication ... erv?id=533 If you read through all of that you'll find out that not only does one member of staff earn about £155,000 a year, they have a stake in a £20Bn pension scheme and that the uni's debt stood at £30m in July 2003 (latest figures available), an increas of about £6m in one year.

£30m.

Whoa.

[Representation @ Your Uni]

A lot of that debt can probably be attributed to the David Russell Apartments complex.

[Wong]

=O That's even more than most of us are in to our overdrafts.

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[md25]

DRH is a £27.4m investment so...

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[s]Rose Chambord wrote on 00:17, 11th Oct 2004:
Just for once I would like to see the volunteers treated with an ounce of respect by someone running the association's side of events.


Well they probably would if a minority of them didn't act like they were the voice of the union on these boards.