Labour - Tories

[NeilSJFC1884]

Any thoughts on the inevitable upcoming campaign? I cant personaly see the big difference between the big two parties. The tories seem intentent on highlighting the split between Brown and Blair, but lets be honest the tories are slightly peeved that Labour have two leaders when they have none.
Labour has simlpy abandoned the left, while still counting on its vote. The conservative answer? Go futher right..... their new proposal on immegration is so nationalistic its riducoulous. god knows who ill vote for....prob the lib-dems, lets be honest they cant be any worse.

[Smith]

Green Party all the way....



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[Haunted]

I'm a blairite, big whoop, wanna fight about it?

[Big X]

i just wish that either Gladstone or Disraeli were still knocking about, i love those guys. reform acts, ireland and colonial ass whipping all round, simply splendid. lets get back to the old days.........

[pelopidas]

Im certainly looking forward to it. It should be far more exciting than 2001 and a lot closer.

100 days before the elections in 2001 and 1997, Labour were 18-20 points ahead (depending on which poll you saw) and proceeded to lose 5 points in the polls and more in the polling booths. At present (97 days before a may 5th election) they are 8 points ahead in most polls, Yougov which has been most accurate polling company over the past couple of years gives them only a 2 point lead. So hopefully this will be a tense and hard fought contest rather than a walk in the park for the labour party.

[Guest]

Their new proposal on immegration is so nationalistic its riducoulous.






I woudn't say nationalistic, just truthful, in that we are a small country and are taking far too many people in.

If thats national then i'm Braveheart

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[Elvis]

I don't think it will be a close election at all. It seems to me a forgone conclusion that Labour will win again (and comfortably). Perhaps not quite a landslide this time but it won't be in doubt.

Lib Dems will do well too, Conservatives will gain some seats but nowhere near enough.

That's my view, sadly. It would be nice if it were exciting, but I doubt it.

[Big X]

blimey,
good to see that the tax payers money is being well spent on these kind of absurd gestures, lets hope that in the immortal words of E. Blackadder and many a politician, "we intend to fight this election on policies, not personalities"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4223091.stm

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[penfold]

Exactly how does that constitute bieng anti-semitic. He is just telling the truth about tory policy. Plus the money labour spent on the poster comes out of there own funds

[im_great_me]

I'll be voting Liberal Democrat simply because Labour have banned hunting (im very pro) and the Conservative policies do not ring true and i disagree with their immigration ideas. I do not wholeheartedly support Liberal Democrats but as they don't have much chance of winning and its my first oppurtunity to vote it seems the best way to go.

[Iain]

So then. Iraqi election broadly a success give or take some attacks and the tragedy with the aircraft. Tony Blair calls snap early April election to cash in?

[Big X]

[s]penfold wrote on 17:08, 31st Jan 2005:
Exactly how does that constitute bieng anti-semitic. He is just telling the truth about tory policy. Plus the money labour spent on the poster comes out of there own funds


well, the tax payer funds all political parties to a certain extent. if you have more than a certain number of seats/members then you are automatically eligable for something like £5m to help with increasing the democratic nature of this lovely nation. i just like to think that it is that cash which is being used to buy the posters, although it probably isnt......

[sejanus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/n ... 182569.stm

And even after that, people still vote for him...

[tintin]

Did anyone see the programme about Kilroy last night on ITV2? Very interesting and it further adds to my current dislike of politicians and political types.

Kilroy is the sort of person who will, like most politicians, use any cause to get themselves voted in to "represent" a cause. Bear in mind that he was a former Labour MP, then used the UKIP to further his public profile and now having got bored of working with a "bunch of fascist nutters" (his own unguarded remark) he sets up shop on his own.

It was fascinating to see in October 2004 Kilroy deny categorically that he had any leadership ambitions in UKIP, and then challenge it a couple of months later. It was especially funny watching the press ask Roger Knapman how he managed to reconcile the fact that he so hated the EU as to want to break it down, yet at the end of the day collect his huge salary and associated perks. He was actually speechless and couldn't answer the question. Sad really, but totally indicative of what people do once they get into power.

I have been watching BBC Parliament most afternoons and listening to these complete morons who are totally incapable of answering an honest question just leaves me cold. Charles Clarke was a former Communist sympathiser who as President of the NUS addressed a conference in Bucharest; Peter Hain the "revolutionary" has surprisingly mellowed now that he is in power; if Tony B"liar" offered to shake my hand I would refuse to. I found it particularly nauseating to watch on Sunday his courting of the yoof vote on Channel 4.

These people give with one hand and take with the other: the same Blair who trumpets the virtues of our wonderful knowledge-based economy thinks nothing of closing entire University departments through policies of chronic underfunding. And this from an Oxford-educated man.

It is really enough for me to consider a career in politics myself, because it seems to me that you can get away with anything: one does not have to be consistent in their viewpoint, one should be at home with back-stabbers, one should like to live off other people - nothing a career in St. Andrews has not taught me. And it is pretty lucrative, too - why do so many people go into it: because they believe in what they do? I doubt it very much.

I used to believe that everyone should make the effort to vote, and still in some way do - people gave their lives and still do in many parts of the world for this privilege. I never thought I would ever say this, but I do think that it is not worth voting in Britain, given the people who "represent" us. Having said that, I notionally suuport the Tories and will vote for them at the next election, but all the same consider it a waste of time.

[rubbermuffin]

Green party all the way for me...

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[Ian McFarlane]

Yeh Tintin, I saw that documentary on Kilroy, but found him more endearing than I think I was supposed to. His rant at the European Commissioners was refreshing. And his denial regarding having leadership ambitions was totally typical of all politicians with aspirations to lead - it was over-vicously deamed a 'lie' by the blatently Europhilic BBC documentarian.

Otherwise, yup, he's a bit of a creep, and I agree with the rest of your thread.

[Guest]

I'll be voting Conservative, because I think at the moment they're the most competent, the most market-orientated party, and the most sincere when it comes to the need for 'small government'.

Also I think they'll be good for education, putting value back in to school exams, reducing Labour's absurd target number for Further-Education, and scrapping the unfair Tuition fees.

As a liberal-minded person it's a tough choice, but this time round I see them as the most credible alternative to a failing Labour government.

[flarewearer]

So people complain about the tories and their usual stooping to immigration to try and scare people into voting for them. What about labour's good old-fashion incapacity benefits bashing by St. Tony himself yesterday?

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[mb667584]

The Tories are still a joke, the Lib Dems are even more of a joke, so once again we are left with no choice but to go labour, the least bad option.

Lots of ppl will probably go lib dem tho, since they are generally seen as the inoffensive protest option to ppl that are pissed of with labour and not crazy enough to vote conservative.