by LonelyPilgrim on Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:18 pm
[s]Irish Frank wrote on 23:17, 2nd Feb 2005:
this is the whole problem with Labour's law and order programme. They're trying to create a security/police state like in the US, but without any real targets or justification that can be highlighted to the public, we end up with mission statements like this one.
Funny, last time I checked we weren't seriously considering national id cards, and we don't have an infestation of camera's in public, and while we do have SOME speed trap cameras... there aren't nearly so many.
Oh, and, for good or ill, we can own handguns. I can't think that any state that allows it's citizens to be so armed could even remotely be a police state. So, how about you come and live in the US for awhile, outside New York please, before you make such statements. Or go live in N. Korea or Cuba... some real police states...
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