The Daleks return

[Humphrey]

I don’t want to seem like a ‘fanboy’, that slightly sad being that rants on endlessly about ‘the inner meaning behind Star Trek episodes’ and who studiously memorises the script of each and every episode of their chosen T.V series. The fact is that I am like that, my brain is full of worthless information about the Tom Baker era and I wasted vast amounts of my teenage years reading the plots of every single episode. I’m not proud about it but I did. And now I feel incensed about an issue that I strongly doubt anyone else will care about: upon returning from lectures and settling down with the News of the World, I read the following and nearly spilt my coffee

‘They’re the hardest baddies of all time of all time, but today we reveal just what’s inside the Daleks’ tough outer shell – a gooey, one eyed blob!. (big deal, that was revealed back in ‘Genesis of the Daleks’ in the seventies). Things look bleak for the world in 2012 when the last surviving Dalek breaks loose from captivity, drains all power from the state of Utah and becomes a genius by memorising the Internet(!). As it goes on a killing rampage the doc and assistant Rose played by Billie Piper (worst piece of casting since Bonnie Langford) arrive by Tardis to do battle. But when Rose touches the Alien it soaks up her DNA and DEVELOPS FEELINGS(!!!!). An insider told us “It can’t last, but incredibly the Dalek stops exterminating and just sort of opens up to Rose”.

When the F**k did Dr Who start turning into Dawson’s Creek. The Dalek is a British institution, it supposed to be the most evil being in the galaxy and convey a sense of menace in the way only a Neo-Nazi dustbin armed with a sink-plunger can. What next, cuddly Cybermen?, Sea Devils go through the menopause?, Davros has a mid-life crisis?. And how the hell can anything turn into a genius after memorising the internet. The net mostly consists of Porn, mis-information and turgid blogs where people post pretentious song lyrics and witter on about how ‘creative’, ‘artistic’ and ‘misunderstood’ they are. This is a situation that’s only going to get worse by 2012. Last week I had to put up with farting aliens with a vinegar allergy and the most imporabable piece of hacking since ‘Independence Day’, and now pacifist Daleks. Much more of this and I’m going to smash up my T.V.

Oh here’s a funny link by the way http://www2.b3ta.com/hawking/


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[Paranoid]

You sit through a guy being eaten by a dustbin and THIS is the first thing to upset you?!?

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[Prophet Tenebrae]

Farting aliens should probably have given you the clue that it's gone downhill.

It's just so childish and uninspiring, good job BBC.

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[Zombie Sheep]

Yeah, agreed, it's just not like it used to be. Bring back Sylvestor McCoy any day!

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[Humphrey]

The thing I loved about the last episode, is this idea that the British government could ask the United Nations and say ‘Excuse me guys, Downing Street has been taken over by aliens, can we have the launch codes to all the nuclear missiles please’ and they would simply say yes uncritically. Then the premise that a kid from Tower Hamlets would have no problem hacking into a British nuclear submarine to launch a missile at number 10. The special effects were actually less convincing than those used in the Doctor Who episodes of the 70s, which is some feat.

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[Duggeh]

Why would someone in the UN be keeping the codes to British nukes?

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[Ben Reilly]

Quoting Duggeh from 18:49, 25th Apr 2005
Why would someone in the UN be keeping the codes to British nukes?

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Because the British Government might get it wrong about weapons that are able to be deployed "within 45 seconds"...

[legohead]

Hey boys and girls, what you whining about?

dr who was always silly anyway!
there was a giant bertie basset in one of the old ones for goodness sake- and I watched the original episode with the walking plastic dummies- and a man got eaten by a chair. it's not exactly Hamlet.

and this new series hasn't changed things that much. Billy piper is sweet and down to earth. there have been dreadful assistants in the past- Teagan for one was really annoying. (Im not a fanboy...er, my brother had loads of episodes on tape, and I just happened to see them a few times)
well, anyway, anything that has a sly dig at the iraqi war is alright by me. just watch it with your brain turned off, it's a silly bit of fun
rant over

p.s. I like song lyrics too so raspberries to anyone who objects

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This is for all those headless acrobats
faces crushed in the circus dust
all in the name of gravity
and the price of admission

[iab2]

i thought the millenium dr who film was good. Shame the new series is so poor in comparison.

[Pandora]

I think that Christopher Eccleston is absolutely brilliant in the role. Its such a shame hes leaving. I think they should have cancelled Eastenders and used the revenue raised to bribe him into staying. Billie Piper is alright in the role. You can tell she isn't experienced at acting. Does anyone think that like a lot of types of television programs Americans make better Science Fiction? Doctor Who is a reasonable effort from the BBC but compared to what the Americans are doing (for example Buffy or Lost) the current episodes of Doctor who just dont compare.

[Pandora]

I think that Christopher Eccleston is absolutely brilliant in the role. Its such a shame hes leaving. I think they should have cancelled Eastenders and used the revenue raised to bribe him into staying. Billie Piper is alright in the role. You can tell she isn\'t experienced at acting. Does anyone think that like a lot of types of television programs Americans make better Science Fiction? Doctor Who is a reasonable effort from the BBC but compared to what the Americans are doing (for example Buffy or Lost) the current episodes of Doctor who just dont compare.

[Rex Mundi]

AHHH!! Emotional Daleks! Omg, they're going to nag people to death about whether there bum looks big in that upturned dustbin of theirs. Run for your lives!

[Rex Mundi]

AHHH!! Emotional Daleks! Omg, they\'re going to nag people to death about whether there bum looks big in that upturned dustbin of theirs. Run for your lives!

[iohannes]

I was saying this after episode two! Let's hope series twenty-eight (or series 2 as they keep calling it!!! - what's next New Doctor Who and Classic Doctor Who? It's not Coke, ffs) is better. I hate the new Doctor. He's smug but without charm, and he's an arsehole. "Narrows it down, narrows it down" Fuck off.

My biggest problem is that this series has 13 episodes telling, what - 12 different stories? Sorry, what, pardon me? The previous series' had maybe 4 or 5 different stories, but they were stories worth telling over a number of episodes. You know, setting the scene, etc. Gah!

As for the Daleks, you're right. Every Whovian, and many who aren't know all about Kaleds, etc. WE KNOW THERE IS A CREATURE INSIDE!!!!!

Sorry, when it comes to Doctor Who, Russell T. Davies is a hack. Actually, no. Even a hack would have kept true to the fucking Who universe. Kevin J. Anderson is a hack, David West Reynolds is a hack, Alan Dean Foster is a hack; but they at least kept true to the Star Wars Expanded Universe.

Series 28 had better be great, and David Tennent had better be fucking amazing.

Christopher Ecclestone! Hah!

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[Humphrey]

Quoting iohannes from 01:50, 26th Apr 2005

Christopher Ecclestone! Hah!

I agree, Eccleston's doctor is extremely annoying and childish like an children's game show host, the whole show feels like it was made for CiTv. And telling so many stories in such a short series makes the plots really rushed. This wouldn't be a problem if they were well written, but they aren't they are shite.

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[Marco Biagi]

Two things Humphrey.

First - re-watch Sylvester McCoy and tell me that wasn't made at least 50-50 as a kids TV programme.

Second - AS A FANBOY YOU SHOULD KNOW TO PUT UP A SPOILER WARNING.

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And hello Mum.

[Steveo]

New = Bad.

[Humphrey]

Quoting Marco Biagi from 08:17, 26th Apr 2005
Two things Humphrey.

First - re-watch Sylvester McCoy and tell me that wasn't made at least 50-50 as a kids TV programme.

Second - AS A FANBOY YOU SHOULD KNOW TO PUT UP A SPOILER WARNING.

Firstly, the last series of Doctor Who actually contained some pretty gruesome scenes such as when that guy's face melts and the fairly adult theme of stories like 'The Curse of Fenric' and that one with the psychotic candy man, I would say that the ratio is more 80-20. Certainly enough of the original series was preserved for me to like it, even if it did get incredibly silly. Oh yeah, the Special Weapons Dalek in 'Remembrance of the Dalek' kicked ass.

Secondly, you cannot 'spoil' something that is already rubbish. Since the plot of the last two episodes was utter drivel, I don't see why I can't give some of it away and save other people the trouble of watching it. Its not like I just gave away the ending of ‘The Sixth Sense’ now is it?


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[grousefanatic]

Quoting Marco Biagi from 08:17, 26th Apr 2005
Two things Humphrey.

First - re-watch Sylvester McCoy and tell me that wasn't made at least 50-50 as a kids TV programme.

Second - AS A FANBOY YOU SHOULD KNOW TO PUT UP A SPOILER WARNING.

Anyone who had access to a TV guide would have known the story line, and it was announced months ago that the Daleks were back - there was a legal battle between the Beeb and the creator of the Daleks (no, not Davross, the real life dustbin designery guy) concerning whether the BBC could use them in a storyline and it was rather well publicised when they did.

Dr Who is meant to be fun anyway - I never found it scary when it was repeated, and my dad felt pretty damn foolish bout admitting to wanting to hide behind the sofa.

I personally like the new format, as the middle 3 episodes of a Doctor Who storyline always tended to drag. It's also good to see that they are trying to develop a backstory just to give it some continuity - the hints about "Time Wars" and the destruction of all the Time Lords, bar the Doctor.

If people think it's rubbish, they don't have to watch at all.

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veni vidi nates calce concidi - i came, i saw, i kicked ass

[Humphrey]

[s]Quoting grousefanatic from 12:01, 26th Apr 2005

If people think it's rubbish, they don't have to watch at all.

Thats the saddest aspect of this, i'm a fan I HAVE to watch it.

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