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Postby Haunted on Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:13 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4648598.stm

Bollocks.
Futhermore, its curious that over 55's prefer ID whilst under 25's tended for Evolution.
How the hell did this happen?
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Postby niall on Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:28 am

whats the difference between creationism and Intelligent design?


anyway, i believe that evolution was part of creationism anyway

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Postby exnihilo on Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:32 am

You'll have read the article then?
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Postby munchingfoo on Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:36 am

2000 is such a small sample

my opinion is that it is likely that most of the people who did not pick evolution didn't really understand the other answers but they just looked "more correct".

The way in which people who do not know the answer to a question, when of limited intelligence, answer it is quite funny really.

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Postby Lodestone on Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:43 am

It ought to be illegal for any journalist to cite a scientific study or survey without providing a reference so that I can check its validity. For goodness sake.
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Postby niall on Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:47 am

Quoting exnihilo from 10:32, 26th Jan 2006
You'll have read the article then?


nope, i'm working on a lab report, and i'm trying to limit my random reading by not staying on the BBC site for too long.

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Postby iohannes on Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:52 pm

Quoting Haunted from 10:13, 26th Jan 2006
Futhermore, its curious that under 25's prefer ID whilst over 55's tended for Evolution.
How the hell did this happen?


It didn't
Participants over 55 were less likely to choose evolution over other groups.


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Postby WashingtonIrving on Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:03 pm

I'm all for the teaching of alternative theories about our origins, providing of course that we teach all alternative theories, as it wouldn't make much sense to choose one alternative over another. Such a thing would make you think that maybe people have some kind of agenda behind the teaching of ID in school science classes. So, I look forward to kids hearing about the flying spaghetti monster in science classes in the future http://www.venganza.org/ .

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Postby munchingfoo on Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:48 pm

i remember doing "god is a green frog" in religous studies at school. Kind of similar to the spaggetti monster thing.

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Postby DrAlex on Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:22 pm

Quoting WashingtonIrving from 13:03, 26th Jan 2006
I'm all for the teaching of alternative theories about our origins.


Surely though depth of teaching should be based on evidence, meaning that relatively speaking ID and Creationism would get a day out of a month of Evolution.

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Postby flarewearer on Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:27 pm

Honestly, who cares what the general public think about the issue? Do we care what they think about solid state physics or organic chemistry? NO. Do they care? NO. This looks to me like some cheap, shoddy journalism trying to grab itself some headline space. Of course the general public aren't convinced by evolutionary theory, they tend not to know the first thing about it; I've studied it for 3 years and I'm still a beginner.

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Postby Queeg on Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:40 pm

It's funny isn't it. They expect the public to believe in evolution, which kind of defeats the point, doesn't it? I think the survey shows that the public need to be taught more about evolution. It's the one theory where learning more and asking questions actually has some benefit. Just randomly believing things makes little sense to me.
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Postby Bitterandtwisted on Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:36 pm

There's a horizon program on ID tonight that may be entertaining. I hope the get Mrs Ross on it.

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Postby Haunted on Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:34 pm

Quoting iohannes from 12:52, 26th Jan 2006
Participants over 55 were less likely to choose evolution over other groups.



Oh yeah, how I missed that I don't know.
I notice they've removed that stat about under 25's though
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Postby David Bean on Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:35 pm

I don't think I was ever taught much about evolution at school - in retrospect I probably know more about the wrestling faction of the same name - but then I did drop Biology before Standard Grade. I don't see why it should be a problem to teach based on the prevailing opinions in whichever field is currently being studied, and leave the rest to the philosophy class, or university.

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Postby flarewearer on Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:05 pm

ID / Creationism : belongs in the Religious Ed class

Evolution : belongs in the Science class

it's as simple as that. Evolution has no place in Religious teaching, and Religion has no place in the Science classroom.

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Postby Greebo on Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:02 pm

Quoting Lodestone from 10:43, 26th Jan 2006
It ought to be illegal for any journalist to cite a scientific study or survey without providing a reference so that I can check its validity. For goodness sake.


It's possible that Ipsos Mori are waiting to publish the poll after the program is broadcast.

But I agree it's incredibly annoying not to be able to see what the poll said etc and draw your own conclusions.

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