Quoting n01 from 10:47, 9th Feb 2007
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6301757.stm
I find this ridiculous as a student. Airfare for me is tough enough as it is.
Do we have a right to be upset at this... or is this aimed at the global warming situation?
Virgin is paying it for the customers though...
Quoting n01 from 10:47, 9th Feb 2007
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6301757.stm
I find this ridiculous as a student. Airfare for me is tough enough as it is.
Do we have a right to be upset at this... or is this aimed at the global warming situation?
Virgin is paying it for the customers though...
Quoting Humphrey from 12:40, 9th Feb 2007
Secondly, to an extent, airlines are being unfairly singled out here. The industry has made great strides to improve its engine efficiency and reduce its emissions and airlines only make up a small percentage of world emissions.
Quoting novium from 01:42, 10th Feb 2007
www.thetrainline.co.uk (or something like that)- if you're booking a couple months in advance, you can go from london to edinburgh for 13 or so pounds.
pretty good, as far as I am concerned. Although i suppose it could have been even cheaper once.
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Quoting MrGreedy from 22:51, 9th Feb 2007Quoting Humphrey from 12:40, 9th Feb 2007
Secondly, to an extent, airlines are being unfairly singled out here. The industry has made great strides to improve its engine efficiency and reduce its emissions and airlines only make up a small percentage of world emissions.
Humphrey, have you been listening to Michael O'Leary with your critical faculties turned off again?
You're right that the big problem is with the "stealth tax" perception, but hypothecating taxes opens up a whole can of worms. The treasury have been quite astute in avoiding any form of ringfencing as the thin end of the wedge.
Quoting The Bitter Historian from 23:27, 9th Feb 2007
You know, the train system in Britain isn't that bad. No, really. I use it a lot, ad it depends on what route you're taking. GNER are bloody awful, but the service is decent; Virgin trains run better with worse service. Such is life, I suppose. After experimenting with a cheap bus from London to Edinburgh, the experience was so dreadful that the train seems a bit of a luxury now. The expense is my real issue about the whole thing. Two years ago, it was possible to book in advance and get a cheap train if you were a bit flexible. That seems impossible now.
However: I am a rather sad case and believe in crazy things like doing my bit to help out the environment. One of these is a conscious choice not to fly internally and to avoid it when flying externally is possible. (If I ever went to Australia, I probably wouldn't get a boat...) I can't remember the exact figures, but I do feel uneasy about the growth in airline travel, and I'm quietly in agreement with higher taxes for airline travel if it could be proved to be an effective way to stop people flying when there's other equally legitimate ways of doing things. Before you all jump on me, I hasten to point out, I also think that simulteneously increasing air tax and airport runways is possibly one of the most synical and devious things I have seen this government do in a long line of letting down the environment.
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Quoting Humphrey from 09:26, 10th Feb 2007
I put it to you that, having sold you soul to satan and joined the public sector you have adopted its habits.
[etc.]
Therefore you have a moral duty to come visit me in London and pay me the extra £40 quid I’m going to have to unjustly shell out on my long haul flight this summer.
Quoting MrGreedy from 17:22, 10th Feb 2007Quoting Humphrey from 09:26, 10th Feb 2007
I put it to you that, having sold you soul to satan and joined the public sector you have adopted its habits.
[etc.]
Therefore you have a moral duty to come visit me in London and pay me the extra £40 quid I’m going to have to unjustly shell out on my long haul flight this summer.
Mr Clarke, I put it to you that at the time of writing this post you should have been working to please your Zionist overlords instead of rising to my bait...
WRT hypothecation, the following link has a few points I'd take issue with but provides a pretty decent overview of the problems:
http://voting.taktix.org/2007/01/04/hypothecation-not-a-hypothesis-on-vacation-but-about-as-much-use/
As for the public purse and my overinflated salary, well I guess I'm bang to rights on that one (although naturally I'd argue that I'm very good value for it). Maybe we can discuss it while sampling my ever-growing whisky collection whenever you get the chance to come up and visit?
P.S.
The football was cancelled so my offer still stands for whenever it gets rearranged.
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