St Andrews: Not Oxbridge or London

[Bizarre Atheist]

So I'm in Oxford at the mo visiting my brother, and since he's at a 2 hour tute(!)I'm just lazing around his room.

Inspection of the various student media littering the place reveals an article in the Cherwell, specifically one of those 'news in brief' columns that appear down the side of a main article, which reads:

Oxford tops UK university ranks

Oxford has topped The Guardian's university rankings for the third year in succession, winning 95.29 points out of a possible 100. The University's lead over second-placed Cambridge now stands at 3.4 points, with London colleges Imperial, UCL and the LSE at third, fifth and sixth places.

Ahem.

Out of sight, out of mind, t'would seem.

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[househunter]

What so St Andrews is supposed to be fourth or something?

[DrAlex]

Didn't the Guardian award us 5*s in degrees we don't even offer?

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[BenEsq]

Quoting DrAlex from 11:44, 1st Jun 2007
Didn't the Guardian award us 5*s in degrees we don't even offer?

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Indeed, we're third in the country for civil engineering. Well done everybody.

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[MacMan]

Hmm, apparantly a Scottish university is not considered by this magazine as being in the UK.

[Lid]

Quoting MacMan from 15:48, 1st Jun 2007
Hmm, apparantly a Scottish university is not considered by this magazine as being in the UK.

I don't think that was the intended point, it left us off the list, but it left a gap for fourth place, it's not like it bumped the others up around it.

I'd just prefer to think that it's because everyone knows how good we are, we don't need mentioned

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[fran]

Quoting Lid from 18:01, 1st Jun 2007

Quoting MacMan from 15:48, 1st Jun 2007
Hmm, apparantly a Scottish university is not considered by this magazine as being in the UK.

I don't think that was the intended point, it left us off the list, but it left a gap for fourth place, it's not like it bumped the others up around it.

I'd just prefer to think that it's because everyone knows how good we are, we don't need mentioned

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It definitely wasn't the intended point, BUT it's the truth: We do indeed occupy number 4 in the Guardian ranking. Well done, St Andrews! Therefore the initial post is quite pointless.

You can see the ranking here:
http://browse.guardian.co.uk/education? ... rews&Go=Go

1: Oxford
2: Cambridge
3: Imperial College
4: St Andrews

[LonelyPilgrim]

The original post wasn't pointless. The point of the original post was just to point out the oddity that the article the poster read listed the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th place universities by name, but failed to mention the 4th place university - St Andrews.

After all, why would an English paper want to acknowledge that a university up in 'barbarous' Scotland might actually be decent?

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[rob 'f*ck off' wine boy]

An indication perhaps of the Editor's views on a certain subject.

[[James]]

Am I right in thinking that this jump up to 4th place is a result of students being told by the University/Union to give St Andrews full marks in the satisfaction survey?

[Bonnie]

I believe the official standpoint in that particular situation was for students NOT to answer the satisfaction survey.
Students, of course, retaliated by answering it with full satisfaction.


(Considering I was sent the questionairre without being eligible to answer it, I wouldn't give much credence to the table at all.)

[fran]

Quoting LonelyPilgrim from 18:01, 2nd Jun 2007
The original post wasn't pointless. The point of the original post was just to point out the oddity that the article the poster read listed the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th place universities by name, but failed to mention the 4th place university - St Andrews.

After all, why would an English paper want to acknowledge that a university up in 'barbarous' Scotland might actually be decent?

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Arma virumque cano...

Oh, okay, I'm being slow today I guess. Apologies. But in that case I agree with you- that is quite silly of that Cambridge paper then...

[Bizarre Atheist]

To clear up a few issues that appear to have arisen...

1. St Andrews is 4th in the UK University rankings, as compiled by the Guardian.
2. The publication in question is a student-run magazine published in Oxford.
3. The purpose of this thread is to highlight my disbelief at St Andrews' ommission and the various insinuations thereof.

Hope that clears things up somewhat. Didn't realise it was so complicated.

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