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Postby RobFett on Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:14 pm

You know the drill.
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Postby James Shield on Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:26 pm

Get Chris Huhne and Nick Clegg to stand.
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Postby Dickie on Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:12 pm

Quoting RobFett from 22:14, 8th Jan 2008
You know the drill.


Run...

Any ideas as to which post I should go for this time?

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Postby Tweedle-Dum on Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:18 am

President.

Quoting Dickie from 23:12, 8th Jan 2008
Quoting RobFett from 22:14, 8th Jan 2008
You know the drill.


Run...

Any ideas as to which post I should go for this time?

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Postby duckgirl on Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:04 pm

Discuss minute constitution and laws details on public forums?
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Postby Lid on Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:01 pm

Quoting duckgirl from 18:04, 9th Jan 2008
Discuss minute constitution and laws details on public forums?


Yes, dialogue is exactly what we don't need.

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Postby Dickie on Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:23 pm

Quoting Lid from 19:01, 9th Jan 2008Yes, dialogue is exactly what we don't need.

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Intercomunication is what is needed instead

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Postby RJ Covino on Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:05 pm

Quoting Dickie from 20:23, 9th Jan 2008

Intercomunication is what is needed instead


If anybody else gets this joke, I will be VERY shocked.
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Postby Bizarre Atheist on Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:36 pm

More in-jokes!

I nominate Coral Dyer!

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Postby Lid on Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:03 pm

We on side proposition, ladies and gentlemen agree with your three main points, BA.

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Postby David Bean on Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:46 am

What's Coral got to do with this? She's one of the most interesting people I know!

EDIT: oh, wait, I've only just realised: this has to be a carve-up, joke, doesn't it? Let me guess - she was absent from the meeting, and you went and nominated her for everything.

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Postby Steveo on Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:16 am

Not everything, only the uninteresting ones.

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Postby Jono on Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:09 pm

Quoting Lid from 23:03, 9th Jan 2008
We on side proposition, ladies and gentlemen agree with your three main points, BA.

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Postby LK Today on Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:50 pm

Coral had a very busy start to her term of office. I saw her at a different meeting every day


Quoting David Bean from 00:46, 10th Jan 2008
What's Coral got to do with this? She's one of the most interesting people I know!

EDIT: oh, wait, I've only just realised: this has to be a carve-up, joke, doesn't it? Let me guess - she was absent from the meeting, and you went and nominated her for everything.

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Postby David Bean on Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:29 am

I'm sure - Coral's one of my favourite people, and a better Volunteering Officer we could not hope to find! :)

Surely there's no such thing as an uninteresting carve-up? ;)

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Postby Dave the Explosive Newt on Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:26 am

Quoting RobFett from 22:14, 8th Jan 2008
You know the drill.


Disband the EOC.

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Postby Steveo on Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:00 pm

Quoting David Bean from 00:29, 12th Jan 2008
Surely there's no such thing as an uninteresting carve-up? ;)


Environment and Ethics. Actually, you're right, that's not uninteresting, it's active n driving one to suicide, just to escape the meeting.

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Postby BenEsq on Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:08 am

Quoting Dave the Explosive Newt from 11:26, 12th Jan 2008
Quoting RobFett from 22:14, 8th Jan 2008
You know the drill.


Disband the EOC.

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Postby Bonnie on Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:48 pm

I say we have all the old foggies go back to St Andrews and rule as gods and goddesses. We should have some sort of council, maybe call it the University Court, that rules over, or is the ultimate check over, the runnings of the University. It should be that the majority of those who sit on this Court just happen to be alumni too! And then the Students' Association should have a higher... Board... that also happens to have mostly current students of alumni (and I guess there could be one non-voting member, who happens to be married to an alumni, who is an employee of the Students' Association.)

And then every year, the alumni get a chance to vote for people to take up a few seats on the Court, which in turn has the power to take up a few seats on the Board. Think about it, old hacks could (theoretically, of course, it would never really happen like this :-p) TAKE OVER the Court and the Board!

And then every three years, the new chair of the Court (having already been packed by old foggy hack alumni) would be elected by current students-- who of course can be greatly influenced by just-graduated-alumni, it does take about a year to find a new Rector (that's what we'd call the chair of Court). Because this event only happens every three years, the majority of the student will have no experience with the previous one, and past and present hacks have much influence over who the students vote for.

Wouldn't that be grand?



As an aside, let's see, Simon Pepper was elected Rector in October of 2005. That means the next election is this autumn. You have to start thinking of whom you'd like to nominate and you have to start writing them letters NOW! Just because you think "he/she'd be a good Rector" does not mean he/she would be able to fit it into their career. Maybe those who have been at the very forefront of finding nominees (who were successful--- I know how hard it must have been to find Martin Passmore when he lives in St Andrews and is so very *interested* in students!) can tell the next generation what worked for them. I personally did not write the letters or anythign for the last two but I saw the people who did find Sir Clement and Mr Pepper do it (Norm being by academic father who was part of the process and Laura being the then girlfriend of my then flatmate and hackery colleague).
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Postby Al on Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:44 pm

If the newly-bluer website is to be believed, all non-student members of SAB are now chosen by the nominations committee.

And what would be wrong with having greater alumni involvement? Other student unions around Scotland allow it. They don't fall apart. Even the same amount of alumni involvement that was once deemed a good thing would be OK. Such as the General Council having a nominee on SAB. It might just stop present day officers acting with surprise and bemusement when they learn that things were once done differently. Hell, it would be worth it just to stop people claiming as "firsts" things that have already been done.

Or - to re-use an idea once posted on the now temporarily unavailable Union board - why not let alumni run for SSC posts? If any SRC post is now open to any student who wants to stand, there is no good reason why standing for posts on the SSC should be limited to ordinary members of the Association.
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