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An example of skewing the figures to suit research goal?

Postby munchingfoo on Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:45 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7328170.stm

And a third of those aged nine to 19 who used the internet weekly had received sexual comments via e-mail, instant message, chat or text message, the survey indicated.


Now, last time I checked, 16 year olds could have sex. What relevance has the range 16 - 19 to sex offenses against children?

Even if you thought that those who were in that range did count, why then only use 8-17 in the previous result?

The move comes after a survey by telecoms regulator Ofcom found nearly half of children aged from eight to 17 had a profile on a social-networking site.



Sounds to me like they made a spread sheet of results on all the ranges from 9 - 19, steping along like 9-10, 9-11, 9-12 etc. Then they picked the one that was the most headline grabing, at the expense of any relevance.

One could argue that 16/17 year olds should be included, but anyone who thinks that 18/19 year olds have any place in this statistic needs to find a new job.

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Postby rob 'f*ck off' wine boy on Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:13 pm

you are probably right
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Postby Garnet on Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:33 pm

reminds me of something from brasseye

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Postby Nickel on Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:13 pm

I think they probably just grabbed those numbers from different studies that were actually dealing with something else.

It does seem a bit pointless including over 16s and not having any other caveats, as it could include having a conversation on messenger with your partner.
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Postby angel_kohaku on Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:52 pm

I don't know about general ... stuff, but I know that within organisations (Scouts, Guides, etc) child protection laws cover anyone under the age of 18.

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Postby munchingfoo on Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:18 pm

Well yes, but the point is the questions asked was not "Has someone you didn't want to made sexual comments to you online?". It just left it open so even your bf/gf counts.


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Postby Hevelius on Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:41 pm

Quoting munchingfoo from 23:18, 4th Apr 2008
Well yes, but the point is the questions asked was not "Has someone you didn't want to made sexual comments to you online?". It just left it open so even your bf/gf counts.

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Quite so. One wonders whether calling someone a 'wanker' or similar in email or while chatting online [in a friendly kind of way] registers in their survey.
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Postby Guest on Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:47 pm

So? Stop being so picky.
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Postby rob 'f*ck off' wine boy on Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:54 pm

Quoting from 16:48, 4th Apr 2008
So? Stop being so picky.


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Postby househunter on Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:52 am

Fact x Importance = News.
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Postby zswedrfhjkljn on Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:54 pm

Quoting from 16:48, 4th Apr 2008
So? Stop being so picky.


I wonder whether that could be classed as a sexual remark in the study above!!!

Frankly, after hearing the most vile and perverted things that twelve years olds say I wonder what sort of threshold did the researchers set?
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Postby Nickel on Sat May 24, 2008 9:43 am

It seems some people are already having problems with the law referenced in the BBC article, even though it isn't even a law yet.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/22 ... ns_oldies/
http://www.faceparty.com/missing_account.aspx?aid=334

I particularly like this bit:
We understand that only a minority of older users are sex offenders, but you must understand that we cannot tell which - we can only delete all to make the site safe and we apologise for that. However, we are following the law and you cannot think we are wrong for doing that.
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