James.C. wrote:yeah, i can remember in new hall in my first year (two years ago now) that in one week we had 2 or 3 fire alarms as people were drunkenly coming in and deciding it would be hilarious to set them off. very very annoying, the scheduled ones were slightly annoying but they have to be done so i can't see why you can complain.
Traveller wrote:James.C. wrote:yeah, i can remember in new hall in my first year (two years ago now) that in one week we had 2 or 3 fire alarms as people were drunkenly coming in and deciding it would be hilarious to set them off. very very annoying, the scheduled ones were slightly annoying but they have to be done so i can't see why you can complain.
If an unscheduled alarm results in a successful evacuation of the building, then they don't have to schedule another drill that term. On the other hand, if the unscheduled alarm revealed problems with getting everyone out, then an additional drill might be needed.
UNCAT Article 1
1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
bbp07 wrote:Why oh why must the university's DRA put us through hell at 700am with a fire drill!!!!!! I know it must be for insurance reasons or some shit like that. But seriously if we can't get ourselves up and out of the dorm when an alarm goes off then maybe we shouldn't be away from mommy and daddy in the first place. After all I think it makes me desensitized to it anyway. I layed in bed for a good minute or two this morning when DRA had its f'n fire drill. I figured it was the Tuesday alarm test, but when it didn't go off, I slowly got dress and made my way out into the cold morning air. I thought about not going... what could they do about it... I'm moving out of here this weekend anyway. Thank God! But then I decided that I must go for the .0000000001% doubt that I had that it was the real deal. And I can never get back to sleep afterwards. I lay their pissed off that they are treating us like we're 5 and that they choose to do the f'n drill before sunrise... every f'n time! And that they choose to test the alarm every f'n tuesday at 9am... nevermind those that may still be sleeping! This morning I saw a girl that decided to go for a morning run instead of participate in the drill... You're my hero! and I wished I would have thought of that too... that is, if I was a morning person, I would rather run at 2am than move before 8am. : ) Thanks for letting me vent.
Does anyone feel this way or have any thoughts or anything to add?
Cheers.
Poor you! Somebody is trying to make sure you won't die in the event of a real fire, how awful! Please note that everyone in uni accommodation (with the possible exception of Fife/Albany Park) puts up with similar things, often at worse times in the night, like the ones at 4:30am in Regs. And please also note that if the alarm went off at 7:00am, that IS dawn at this time of year, so your suggestion that is is "before sunrise" is wrong. And please do realize that not everything in life will always make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. There are worse things in the world than being made to get out of your bed at 7:00am. Grow up.
munchingfoo wrote:I'm pretty sure using fire drills when people are asleep as a form of punishment would be torture.UNCAT Article 1
1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
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