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by **mossop** on Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:39 pm

I'm running windows 98 on my room pc, and it doesn't crash at all! The trick is not to download ridiculous amounts of stuff onto it!

Oh, and re: messenger, I think they should have it, as foreign students often use it as a way of keeping in touch with home, at least I did when I was in Barca!

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by **Guest** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:18 am

Hehe, they're not putting in macs anyway. The most realistic reason is probably because they don't want to be called out to fix it every two days, and that the vast majority of people would prefer a pc anyway.

by **MrGreedy** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:49 am

They should definitely be a bit more careful about setting them up though (i.e. not make the default user an administrator). Our PCs in JBH are frequently messed up by morons who don't know what they're doing, and the occasional moron who does (e.g. porn as wallpaper).

by **Valen_gr** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:28 am

Ok just so you know, we will get i-desks, kinda like the ones in the math labs.Pc's built into the desks with TFT screens and a good spec.They will not be on resnet, but on the clasroom network.Hence, there will be limited access and there will be no msn or any other instant messaging software, they were adamant about it.

by **MrGreedy** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:33 am

Sounds sensible if you ask me. That way there's also a clear structure for maintenance and problems to be dealt with, as opposed to doing things ad hoc.

by **Guest** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:45 am

[s]Valen_gr wrote on 02:28, 30th Oct 2003:
Ok just so you know, we will get i-desks, kinda like the ones in the math labs.Pc's built into the desks with TFT screens and a good spec.They will not be on resnet, but on the clasroom network.Hence, there will be limited access and there will be no msn or any other instant messaging software, they were adamant about it.

Don't most halls know about this already? i thought the RCRs were meant to discuss it with their hall committee's?

by **andrewdalgleish** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:35 pm

i've not been told about it (i'm rcr in regs) but i did only just become rcr a couple of weeks ago...

by **tintin** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:24 pm

While I see that shITyServices may be hiring someone to "look into the problem" of computer provision in halls, and this is all well and good, this sort of thing should have been done months ago. If students are expected to submit the majority of their work in word-processed form, it would be helpful if there were enough computers to go around, especially for those of us who don't own one.

I notice that the AV Suite in the Buchanan building, for the use of Modern Languages students, has a notice on the door explaining that the room will be refurbished etc over the summer vacation. It is now nearly NOVEMBER and still there are no computers in there, and STILL nothing has been done to upgrade the room. What EXACTLY do IT Services do every day?

Another gripe is the fact that there are frequently several computers in the main Library operating in "Maintenance Mode" i.e. out of order, yet even with large queues waiting to use these computers, nobody bothers to do anything about the problem.

by **Prophet Tenebrae** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:19 pm

No doubt the irony being there are some ITS people have donuts and looking bored in the same building?

by **anarchy2000** on Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:28 pm

Thought i'd say what ITS plan to do, only 35 computers are being bought for all halls (original plan was 120).
All computers will be windows 2000 and wont have any messenger on them.
There gonna be like the microlab (math lab) ones so then they can put them away during breaks. Oh and we'll have to log onto them to use them.

by **Amanda** on Fri Oct 31, 2003 12:53 am

Oh and we'll have to log onto them to use them.

is that a bad thing?

by **Guest** on Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:00 am

[s]anarchy2000 wrote on 19:28, 30th Oct 2003:
There gonna be like the microlab (math lab) ones so then they can put them away during breaks. Oh and we'll have to log onto them to use them.

Those are both for security reasons in fact. There are a large number of computers being introduced but they will be implemented over the course of a couple of years.

by **PurelySynthetic** on Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:50 am

If u didnt log onto them how would u use them.. no stupid comments there plz!
You have to log onto every single other university owned computer so why should a few new computers in hall be any different?
How many hall computer rooms are there? Hmmm... thankfully a lot of people either have their own computer or avoid them like the plague coz otherwise we'd be a bit screwed on the whole resources side.

by **Valen_gr** on Fri Oct 31, 2003 12:42 pm

[s]anarchy2000 wrote on 19:28, 30th Oct 2003:
Thought i'd say what ITS plan to do, only 35 computers are being bought for all halls (original plan was 120).

If you payed attention at the meeting you would understand that this is a multi-year project and has a set budget per year, so that is why only 35 pc's will be bought this year.The rest will be bought in subsequent years up to the target number of 120.
There is only so much IT services can do with a budget of £60k per year for the hall clusters.So go easy on them, they are trying their best, and believe me, they were under no obligation to do this for us.We should be thankfull that we will get hall pc's AND printers that are reliable and work.
all said.

by **PurelySynthetic** on Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:37 pm

hmm as far as i knew it was the universitys responsibility to provide us with adequate resources?
maybe im wrong?
maybe a university can just open with a lecturer and one book and thats it?

by **fluKe** on Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:50 pm

The university does provide us with adequate resources.

Our library has loads of books, there are libraries in almost every building - including residences which have extra books. Course notes are usually uploaded to the web.

On the point of computers. There are a lot of computers in the university. ITS is now taking over control of hall computer rooms. They have a budget of £50,000 to spend a year on hall computer systems. They are putting in 1-2 computers in each hall this year and phasing in the rest over the next few. There is no budget for anything else. The security desks they are putting them in to stop them being stolen or tampered with (12 PCs were stolen from swallowgate not that long ago) cost £300 each. Then there is the cost of the systems themselves, software licenses etc. The cost of technicians time to set them up etc. I think they are doing alright.

My only complaint is that they said that they'd hopefully be taking delivery of the new systems in 1-2 weeks at the meeting so I wish they'd hurry up and put them in halls.

To say there isn't adequate provision is nonsense. There is a difference between adequate and a super-computer per person etc.

by **Guest** on Sat Nov 01, 2003 2:10 am

Does anyone know when shITyservices will be putting the computers back into the AV-suite in the Buchanan building?

by **PurelySynthetic** on Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:50 am

£50,000 a year :O (msn faces dont work on here

sigh) woah... i take it that just doesnt go on computers themselves then?
A question though... why dont they put windows xp on them rather than 2000? They already have the uni licence for that or am i wrong? (coz if youre a comp sci student you get the cd off them and voila you've got the latest version).
p.s. if an unreg post of exactly this goes up ignore it coz im a ditz! :$

by **Pussycat** on Sat Nov 01, 2003 11:42 pm

[s]PurelySynthetic wrote on 10:50, 1st Nov 2003:
A question though... why dont they put windows xp on them rather than 2000? They already have the uni licence for that or am i wrong? (coz if youre a comp sci student you get the cd off them and voila you've got the latest version).

They are using 2000 as that is what the classroom system is based upon. I'm pretty sure they don't have a license for XP.

by **Nickel** on Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:08 am

[s]PurelySynthetic wrote on 10:50, 1st Nov 2003:
£50,000 a year :O (msn faces dont work on here

sigh) woah... i take it that just doesnt go on computers themselves then?

it does

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