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Postby CarolynSD on Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:15 pm

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Postby MrGreedy on Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:23 pm

Worth going just to meet the lovely Carolyn ;)
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Postby Guest on Sat Nov 01, 2003 2:10 am

[s]CarolynSD wrote on 19:15, 31st Oct 2003:[i]
I know there is alot on tonite

Just to let you no the word 'alot' does not exist - the correct version is 'a lot'.
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Postby Valen_gr on Sat Nov 01, 2003 3:35 am

Sorry Carolyn, missed it :(
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Postby Creep on Sat Nov 01, 2003 4:15 am

I met a ghost. She bit me. In the wrong place.
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Postby CarolynSD on Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:14 am

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Postby Al on Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:16 am

"Just to let you no the word 'alot' does not exist - the correct version is 'a lot'."

I can't help thinking that the use of "no" for "know" in a sentence correcting someone else's spelling was not that good an idea.

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Postby Kibet on Sat Nov 01, 2003 12:04 pm

[s]Al wrote on 10:16, 1st Nov 2003:
I can't help thinking that the use of "no" for "know" in a sentence correcting someone else's spelling was not that good an idea.


maybe they use silenter K's and W's than the rest of us . i might be wrong though so maybe the ghosts stole them.

the purpose of words is for communication, it doesn't matter if alot was used as people would still know it was alot. hey i use alot as well, i never realised that before.

if people said "two mouses ate my cheese", although not gramatically correct, will people not still imagine two mice eating the cheese?
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Postby Anon. on Sat Nov 01, 2003 12:33 pm

[s]CarolynSD wrote on 08:14, 1st Nov 2003:
and I think in the USA "a lot" has dropped out of literal metaphor usage into real word-dom as "alot",


I don't. It's like inappropriate use of the apostrophe - widespread, but nevertheless incorrect. Still.

though spell-checker still tells me I am wrong.

I think that's probably because you are wrong :P

Oh, and "tonite"??
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Postby PurelySynthetic on Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:35 pm

Oh my god - yet another thread changed into the fights over grammar, spelling etc. etc.
Couple of questions, 'cause i know nothing about these issues!
1. Can you have one word sentences?
2. When using something in brackets at the end of a sentence where does the full stop go? Inside or outside the brackets? eg. (this). or (this.)
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Postby Foolish Pedant on Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:38 pm

[s]CarolynSD wrote on 13:16, 1st Nov 2003:
ahh and anyhow the line between "widely used and incorrect" and "correct" is a fuzzy one-dictionaries only partly set the standard, and partly reflect common usage...think of "underwear" or "Halloween"-one was under wear and one was Hallowed evening(??) but now both are proper spellings...I would say your claim is contentious at best.

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Carolyn, "tonite" is an explosive compound. So yes, it's a valid spelling, but used out of context in your case.

Originally "the Eve of All Hallows", it has been shortened to Hallowe'en (with apostrophe).

I find it rather sad that the English language has been developed for so many hundreds of years, as a way of expressing exactly what we mean; as a means to get what's in our heads into other people's heads.

There are enough words out there for one to be able to convey an idea without any ambiguity or confusion. Why disregard this wonderful development of the language with a simple "well you knew what I meant to say"?
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Postby Anon. on Sat Nov 01, 2003 2:15 pm

Whyever does "She smiles a lot" not make sense?
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Postby MrGreedy on Sat Nov 01, 2003 2:59 pm

To answer the brackets (or parentheses) question, the location of the full stop depends on whether or not a parenthetical comment is part of a larger sentence. If so, the full stop should appear after the second parenthesis (as here).
(When the entire sentence is parenthetical, as here, the full stop should appear inside the final parenthesis.)

For anyone who finds themselves worrying about these things (Saint copy-editors perhaps?), I highly recommend Bill Bryson's "Troublesome Words" as a guide to some of the stickier aspects of English usage - before all his travel writing he was a sub-editor on the Times.
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Postby immunodiffusion on Sat Nov 01, 2003 4:50 pm

[s]PurelySynthetic wrote on 13:35, 1st Nov 2003:
1. Can you have one word sentences?


No, for a set of words to be a sentence it should include a subject, object and verb. So the most simple sentence would have 3 words - eg "Mark hit Martin". Longer sentences are just modifications of this basic idea, adding in extra modifiers and subclauses, but still including a subject, object and verb
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Postby Thackary on Sat Nov 01, 2003 5:33 pm

I would have said that a sentence needs to contain at the very least a verb.

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Postby Divining Lemming on Sat Nov 01, 2003 5:37 pm

sentences do not require objects: ie 'Tony collapsed'. valid sentence. Imperatives eg 'Stop!' am fairly certain acceptable as one word sentences, since subject/object implicit in context of use
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Postby MrGreedy on Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:09 pm

Whether or not a verb needs an object depends on if it's transitive or intransitive. An intransitive verb doesn't have an object, e.g. "Bob slept" or "Tony collapsed" (as above).
A transitive verb follows the standard pattern outlined by immunodiffusion.
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