Durham Opens 2007

[mattina]

Durham Opens will be held on the 16th and 17th of June this year. It will be a two-day competition with five rounds of closed motions.

Given the timing of the competition and whatnot, the society will not be paying reg fees for teams; reg is 50 pounds.

Teams who wish to go, will have to self fund. Should anyone wish to go, email me at lem55 and I'll let you know how to register and be able to pass along the other details of the competition as I get them.

-Laura

[Steveo]

Did the society pay the reg. fees for Durham last year?

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Get off my internet.

[mattina]

Yes, but only if both speakers were from St Andrews. However, this year is not last year and given the timing of the competition and situation this year, we decided not to.

-Laura

[Steveo]

What's so special about the timing that's changed from last time?

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Get off my internet.

[mattina]

It seems to be at inconvenient time for a lot of people this year.

Besides, we feel that our resources are better spent elsewhere.

[kdc4]

Newcastle are holding an open of their own the day before. 3 rounds, open motions...

They've never done this before, but they're only charging ten quid.

Cheers,
-Doug

[Steveo]

Couldn't you just have just said, at the start, that the society hasn't got the money to fund the teams? It's no bloody secret.

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Get off my internet.

[kdc4]

As Euros this year will be taking place in the summer, the Durham Open 2007
has become a closed-motion two-day tournament where those heading to Koc can
hone their skills and hacks can prove the can still bring sexyback. Don't
worry, we're not taking ourselves too seriously, there will still be plenty
of yakka, and the Open will return to its traditional format next year.

The *team* *cap* has been set at *60* and registration has already been
busy, so please email durhadebate@gmail.com asap to reserve your place.
Registration costs *£50* (for judges £25) and includes *crash, alcohol* and
*5 rounds* breaking to semis. Registration on the Saturday (16th June) will
be 10.30am – 1pm with the first round starting at 2pm. We aim to be finished
debating, and start drinking, by around 6pm on the Sunday.

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From the membership of the applicable facebook group, this year's Open is looking to be super-competitive.

Cheers,
-Doug

[mattina]

If anyone wants to go, make sure that you register soon-it looks like it is filling up.

(and if you could let me know just so the society has a list that would be grand)

-Laura

[mattina]

Newcastle International Open Competition

Date: 15 June 2007 (Friday, Durham Opens on Saturday)

Style: 3 semi-open rounds

entry fee: 10 pounds per team

start time: 1 pm

team cap: 28

to register: email me (lem55) and I'll send you the email address for Newcastle Debates so you can register or if you need more details.

-Laura

[Jason]

Just as an added incentive for the last time (I think) John Stewart and myself will be speaking together as team Heartless Bastards! Any of you freshers think you've got what it takes???

Come on it'll be fun.

More importantly though anyone going to Euros keep in mind that Can Okar is the CA of Durham and also the CA of Euros. Seeing his style of motion and decions in the semis and final etc will be useful.

[mattina]

Registration for the Newcastle Open is now closed (although it seemed that team cap might be extended if you brought judges with you).

-Laura

[kdc4]

If anyone wants to do Newcastle with me, do give a shout. I have a team spot reserved.

Cheers,
-Doug

Quoting mattina from 14:56, 28th May 2007
Registration for the Newcastle Open is now closed (although it seemed that team cap might be extended if you brought judges with you).

-Laura

[Ewan MacDonald]

The Durham Open 2007 was won by UCC Phil C (Diarmuid Early and Ross Frenett) from second proposition. The other finalists were: Fat Children are harder to kidnap (Jason Vit and John Stewart), Sam Block’s Speech writers (Mhairi Murdoch and Daniel Warents) and UCC Phil A (Derek ‘Jimmy’ Doyle and Derek Lande). The motion was something vaguely related to incorporating the right to choose into EU law, although that wasn’t exactly what happened. The final panel was chaired by Can Okar, and also consisted of Andrew Fitch, Kizzy Russell, Ally Cormack, Connie Grieve, Adam Bott, and Bob Nimmo.
I will stick the tab up at some point when an electronic version appears.


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When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.
Edmund Burke

[kdc4]

Also congratulations to Jason Vit and Derek 'Jimmy' Doyle, who triumphed at the Newcastle Open.

Cheers,
-Doug

[kdc4]

1 Jason Vit 254

2 Derek Doyle 253
2 Sam Block 253
4 Dan James 247
5 Dan Bradley245
6 Ross Frenett 242
6 John Child 242
8 Richard Lau241
9 Diarmuid Early240
10 Sammy Neville 238
11 Keir Howie 236
12 Daniel Riley 235
13 Alison Abrahams 232
14 Ciara Lyden 231
14 Mhairi Murdoch 231
16 Daniel Warrents 230
17 Jo Box 229

17 Beth Conner 229

19 Scott Stanley 228
20 Richard Flint 227
20 Roger Cotes 227

22 Alex Jennings 225

23 Tadhg O'Leary 224
23 Mark Collins 224
25 Ruth Faller 221
26 Aengus O'Corrain 218
27 Laura Laws 217
28 Eamonn Chawke 213
29 Colin Lakin 205
30 Richard Anderson 204
30 Chris Hale 204
32 Leo Wilson 199
32 Jonathan Walsh 199
32 Jo Fowler 199
35 Angharad Evans 198
36 Charlotte Rose 196
37 Swinger Swing 195
38 Tom Whittaker190
38 Hayden Cohen 190
40 Jonathan Lautier 188

[Ewan MacDonald]

Team (top eight broke to semi's)

Team Speaker Pts Team Points
1 UCC Phil A 821 12
2 UCC Phil C 799 12
3 Team Law 783 12
4 Fat Children 799 11
Are Harder To Kidnap
5 Danny & Tits McGee 795 11
6 Sam Block's 782 11
Speech Writers
6 UCC Law D 782 11
8 Negative Externalities 798 10
9 Tabitha & Luke 763 10
10 UCC Law E 769 9
11 UCC Phil B 764 9
12 UCC Law B 756 9
13 Manchester DD 778 8
14 Child Obesity Up, 760 8
Paedophilia Down
15 University of Jesus Pirate 758 8
16 A Hard Man Is Good To Find 746 8
17 KCL A 742 8
18 Manchester Hardcore 731 8
19 Dude, Where's My Partner? 721 8
20 No, This Is SPARTA!!! 713 8
21 NWA 763 7
22 UCC Phil D 757 7
23 The Crown & The Empire 729 7
24 Newcastle A 721 7
25 UCC Law A 702 7
26 I Can't Believe It's Not Cambridge 745 6
27 Middle Temple 742 6
28 This Is Madness 724 6
29 KCL Death 730 5
30 Pedantic & The Princess 722 5
31 Birmingham A 713 5
32 UCC Law C 693 5
33 We've Found Madeleine, She's In My Fridge 714 4
34 Obscure Sitcom Reference #125 704 4
35 UCC Phil E 684 4
38 Waterford Crystal Meth 691 2
36 A Jew & an atheist 435 3
37 The Yorkshire Terriers 424 3
39 York A 412 2
40 York B 409 2

And speakers!

1 Derek Lande UCC Phil A 78 86 89 85 75 413
2 Sam Block Danny & Tits McGee 85 82 80 80 82 409
3 Derek Doyle UCC Phil A 79 85 89 80 75 408
4 Diarmuid Early UCC Phil C 77 79 83 78 87 404
5 John Stewart Fat Children Are Harder To Kidnap 83 78 81 81 77 400
6 Jason Vit Fat Children Are Harder To Kidnap 81 80 80 79 79 399
6 Alex Wright Negative Externalities 82 80 80 76 81 399
6 JLM Negative Externalities 81 81 79 76 82 399
9 Ross Frenett UCC Phil C 75 76 82 76 86 395
9 Tiernan Fitzgibbon UCC Law D 78 77 78 79 83 395
11 John Child Team Law 77 77 81 80 79 394
12 Daniel Warrents Sam Block's Speech Writers 77 75 78 81 80 391
12 Mhairi Murdoch Sam Block's Speech Writers 76 77 77 78 83 391
12 Dan Bradley Manchester DD 79 77 79 77 79 391
15 Richard Flint Team Law 76 73 81 78 81 389
15 Daniel P McCarthy UCC Law E 80 74 80 75 80 389
17 Dan James Manchester DD 78 76 79 74 80 387
17 Art Ward UCC Law D 76 77 76 77 81 387
19 Danny Riley Danny & Tits McGee 79 78 77 75 77 386
19 Conor O'Brien UCC Phil B 77 80 78 74 77 386
21 Ewan MacDonald Child Obesity Up, Paedophilia Down 78 75 77 79 76 385
22 Mark Collins UCC Law B 73 75 78 76 81 383
22 Braphus Kaaland NWA 80 79 75 79 70 383
24 Tabitha Wilmer Tabitha & Luke 76 73 77 77 79 382
25 Luke Wells Tabitha & Luke 78 72 79 75 77 381
25 Alanna Landers UCC Phil D 76 77 77 77 74 381
27 Alex Ward NWA 77 78 74 78 73 380
27 Steven Nolan UCC Law E 77 73 78 78 74 380
27 Rebecca Mann University of Jesus Pirate 74 79 78 75 74 380
30 Paul Flynn UCC Phil B 75 77 77 74 75 378
30 Vanessa Collins University of Jesus Pirate 73 80 72 78 75 378
32 Shane Murray I Can't Believe It's Not Cambridge 75 75 77 75 75 377
33 Deirdre Milner UCC Phil D 75 77 77 75 72 376
33 Kieron Lyden A Hard Man Is Good To Find 76 77 76 71 76 376
35 Rob Marrs Child Obesity Up, Paedophilia Down 74 73 75 78 75 375
36 Eamon Chawke UCC Law B 71 77 74 71 80 373
37 James Prior Middle Temple 80 76 68 78 70 372
38 Charles Le Grice KCL A 74 73 75 76 73 371
38 Johnathan Gaydon KCL A 74 75 73 76 73 371
38 Jim Bligh The Crown & The Empire 74 73 72 76 76 371
41 Ruth Faller A Hard Man Is Good To Find 75 77 75 69 74 370
41 Katie Hobbs Middle Temple 78 73 67 79 73 370
43 Julia Poliscanova KCL Death 78 72 75 72 72 369
44 Jo Box I Can't Believe It's Not Cambridge 73 72 74 75 74 368
44 Hannah Gates Manchester Hardcore 70 75 76 72 75 368
46 Richard Lau Dude, Where's My Partner? 69 67 75 76 78 365
46 Brian Oberne This Is Madness 74 75 76 71 69 365
46 Richard Anderson We've Found Madeleine, She's In My Fridge 74 71 70 76 74 365
49 Oisin Collins Pedantic & The Princess 70 74 74 73 73 364
50 Chelsea Muirhead Manchester Hardcore 72 73 74 70 74 363
51 Russell Haswell Newcastle A 71 73 66 76 75 361
51 Luke Blaxill KCL Death 75 73 71 70 72 361
53 Steven Brown Newcastle A 68 75 66 75 76 360
54 Sammy Neville Birmingham A 76 69 70 69 75 359
54 Barry Devlin No, This Is SPARTA!!! 67 65 75 74 78 359
54 Joe McCaffrey This Is Madness 76 73 74 69 67 359
57 Lee Daly Obscure Sitcom Reference #125 71 68 76 73 70 358
57 Mike Morley The Crown & The Empire 72 69 71 72 74 358
57 Aoife Finnerty Pedantic & The Princess 69 72 76 71 70 358
60 Phil Alexander Dude, Where's My Partner? 66 69 71 74 76 356
61 Aengus Ó Corráin UCC Law A 67 70 72 67 79 355
62 Alison Abrahams Birmingham A 75 68 71 68 72 354
62 Dave McGuire No, This Is SPARTA!!! 65 66 70 76 77 354
64 Laura Laws We've Found Madeleine, She's In My Fridge 71 70 69 71 68 349
65 Emma Kerins Waterford Crystal Meth 69 69 66 73 70 347
65 Scott Stanley UCC Law A 66 66 72 68 75 347
65 Tadhg O'Leary UCC Law C 68 68 68 70 73 347
68 Chris Hale UCC Law C 68 67 67 70 74 346
68 Greg Bowler Obscure Sitcom Reference #125 74 69 66 69 68 346
70 Sile Quinlan UCC Phil E 65 70 75 65 70 345
71 Eamon Quinlan Waterford Crystal Meth 68 69 66 75 66 344
72 Siobhan Greaney UCC Phil E 62 69 67 65 76 339
73 Ollie A Jew & an atheist 73 76 70 0 0 219
74 Sophie Burt A Jew & an atheist 71 75 70 0 0 216
75 Angharad Evans The Yorkshire Terriers 71 74 70 0 0 215
76 Charlotte Rose The Yorkshire Terriers 70 70 69 0 0 209
76 Maryah Muftie York A 75 68 66 0 0 209
78 Robin Jervis York B 70 64 72 0 0 206
79 Edmund Scholey York A 70 68 65 0 0 203
79 Peter Hagen York B 68 63 72 0 0 203

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When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.
Edmund Burke

[Mr Comedy]

"We've found Madeline" is arguably one of the best team names I've heard in a while.

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"I am in no way interested in immortality, but only in the taste of tea. " -Lu Tung

[David Bean]

I have to say, I thought that rather tasteless. Spartan references are far more appropriate; such a pity the rules prohibit kicking one's opponent into a pit.

In any case, congratulations once more to our own teams and speakers; it doesn't look as though our excellent reputation on the circuit is in any jeopardy.

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Psalm 91:7

[mattina]

Hurrah to the St Andrews speakers! It looks like it was a pretty tough line up!