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The Historical Debate

Postby Mr Comedy on Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:54 pm

Could someone elucidate the forthcoming Historical Debate for me? I understand the concept somewhat but I do have a few questions.
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[li]Are the speakers going to be merely reciting the previous speeches, or are they going to be based on the material of the day?
[li]What should one wear to a debate such as this? I want to wear something indicative of the period. Is there anyone who would lend me such garments?
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Postby rache1 on Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:10 pm

David can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the speakers are supposed to speak in the manner of the person they are portraying, but it their own words.

As for clothes that are appropriate, you could probably find an outfit at a charity shop for little money.
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Postby Partizan on Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:34 pm

Yes, because the charity shops are just swimming in gently-used Nazi uniforms...
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Postby rache1 on Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:40 am

[s]Partizan wrote on 23:34, 27th Feb 2004:
Yes, because the charity shops are just swimming in gently-used Nazi uniforms...


Well, any twit can research historical clothing and find a gently used suit, and surely attach the swastika armband, if you so choose...
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Postby exnihilo on Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:36 am

And more twits than you might imagine will.
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Postby Anon. on Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:37 pm

I thought it was a debate about British appeasement? Surely black shirts would be more appropriate, if one wished to proclaim solidarity with that particular type of appeaser.
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Postby David Bean on Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:07 pm

[s]rache1 wrote on 17:10, 26th Feb 2004:
David can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the speakers are supposed to speak in the manner of the person they are portraying, but it their own words.


Absolutely right. So hopefully the speakers will be able to research their opinions and base their speeches on the kind of things the real people would have said, but they'll be free to interpret things as they like.

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Postby Ewan MacDonald on Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:59 am

Just thought I would write my congratulations to all of the speakers last night fo providing us with a excellant debate. Watcing it a a historian, it was clear that people had put a lot of work into their research, outfits, and in some cases their accents. Thanks to everyone for providing a humourous and entertaining debate. Also some praise must be reserved for the Convenor whose idea the event was. All in all, a top night.

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Postby Mr Comedy on Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:37 pm

However, I was somewhat baffled by the presence of Mrs Moggins, and the reanimation of Winston Churchill, who having already made a tabled speech, then proceeded to make a floor speech as well..

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Postby John Stewart on Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:51 pm

...and turned out to have invented a time machine.

...which doubtlessly came in useful later when David blasted us all back to the present to tell us that there had been no holocaust...
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Postby rache1 on Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:05 pm

Exactly. No holocaust, no long war...

And whose side won? Oh, wait... the one with two females.

Moral of the story? Listen to women, and the world would be a better place. :P
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Postby Mr Comedy on Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:07 pm

Absolute nonsense. The moral of the story is a good motion will aways get passed, no matter how many women are involved.
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Postby Eliot Wilson on Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:39 pm

David Bean: "There was no Holocaust."

An election slogan, perhaps?

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Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

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Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

Death: "Don't patronise me."
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Postby RJ Covino on Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:59 pm

[s]Eliot Wilson wrote on 16:39, 4th Mar 2004:
David Bean: "There was no Holocaust."

An election slogan, perhaps?


How delightfully impartial...
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Postby John Stewart on Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:19 pm

My overdue congratulations though. It was a good and entertaining debate, and I certinaly felt I learnt a good deal about appeasement.

Also, well done to the ladies for the obvious effort they put into their dress for the evening. It certainly added to the atmosphere and interest for what is probably the most memorable LPH debate this year.
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Postby Okocim on Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:07 pm

Oh it sounds like the evening was great fun. I had hoped that I might be able to come, but I was on late duty at work. Can somebody tell me who the speakers of the evening were and when, if ever, the minutes are to be posted on the web?

Thanks

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Postby Laura on Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:58 am

Peter Blair as Winston Churchill, Miranda Wiegler as a member of a Jewish organisation, Rachel Hasler as Eleanor Roosavelt, Michael Philips as Neville Chamberlain, Richard Watt as Lord Halifax and Jason Vit as Joseph Goebbels. I expect the minutes will be posted on the new web site after it's update in the coming debating year. Hope this helps!
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Postby Okocim on Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:09 pm

[s]Laura wrote on 02:58, 5th Mar 2004: Hope this helps!


It does. Thanks.


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