Music downloads

[flossy]

Can anyone recommend me a good, legal, cheap place to downloads music from? Also has to be compatible with whatever tricks Resnet has up it's sleeve.
(I put things onto my mp3 player in wma.)

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[househunter]

www.allofmp3.com legal by russian law and very very cheap. Fucking good sevice too. Lets you download the music in 5 different formats, in any quality ranging from 96 to 320 kbps. Lets you pay by paypal too.

EDIT Does WMA and when I say cheap I mean it, you pay 2 cents per megabyte, so thats around 4p per song.

[Wong]

mp3search.ru - Same sort of idea, but you pay per song ($0.10) rather than per megabyte.

[hr]No tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves

[Guest]

Yea, I'm sure it's "legal". But what about downloading music videos?

[fluKe]

Actually allofmp3 isn't legal.

As recently as last week they have been in a lot of trouble with lawsuits from the labels whose material they sell because they do not have permission to re-sell the songs. They claim they bought the rights from russain production companies however the labels point out that these places have no ability to sell such rights on and that the website has been acting illegally.

Several lawsuits have been filed by the RIAA and recording groups and they are regarded as open & shut cases. It's thought that the site will owe a shit load of money to the recording labels they've been ripping off.

And when the judgement comes through it's likely that the courts will grant access to the sites server logs showing exactly who has been downloading songs from them...

[househunter]

[s]fluKe wrote on 00:09, 4th Mar 2005:
Actually allofmp3 isn't legal.

As recently as last week they have been in a lot of trouble with lawsuits from the labels whose material they sell because they do not have permission to re-sell the songs. They claim they bought the rights from russain production companies however the labels point out that these places have no ability to sell such rights on and that the website has been acting illegally.

Several lawsuits have been filed by the RIAA and recording groups and they are regarded as open & shut cases. It's thought that the site will owe a shit load of money to the recording labels they've been ripping off.

And when the judgement comes through it's likely that the courts will grant access to the sites server logs showing exactly who has been downloading songs from them...


Well shit! Better use up the last of my credit before it says bye-bye. Shame as it really is a good service.

[surfingsimon]

[s]dunqn wrote on 13:40, 4th Mar 2005:
You can watch a lot of music videos legally, but it's streaming (doesn't stay on your computer) and it's from Yahoo or MSN music sites - visiting which are akin to contracting leprosy.


is there a way to download a streaming video, (im sure some enterprising nerd has written such code)?

[amac]

[s]surfingsimon wrote on 18:03, 4th Mar 2005:
[s]dunqn wrote on 13:40, 4th Mar 2005:[i]
You can watch a lot of music videos legally, but it's streaming (doesn't stay on your computer) and it's from Yahoo or MSN music sites - visiting which are akin to contracting leprosy.


is there a way to download a streaming video, (im sure some enterprising nerd has written such code)?
[/i]

http://stream-down.cocsoft.com/

You have to buy it though, unless you of other ways.

[Wong]

I've done it before, but they were all from sites where security wasn't exactly a top priority (i.e. non-existent).

Remember that you're funding terrorism, according to FACT. What a load of nonsense.

[hr]No tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves

[househunter]

[s]fluKe wrote on 18:09, 3rd Mar 2005:
Actually allofmp3 isn't legal.

As recently as last week they have been in a lot of trouble with lawsuits from the labels whose material they sell because they do not have permission to re-sell the songs. They claim they bought the rights from russain production companies however the labels point out that these places have no ability to sell such rights on and that the website has been acting illegally.

Several lawsuits have been filed by the RIAA and recording groups and they are regarded as open & shut cases. It's thought that the site will owe a shit load of money to the recording labels they've been ripping off.

And when the judgement comes through it's likely that the courts will grant access to the sites server logs showing exactly who has been downloading songs from them...




Actually it is, check out this information http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3faq.htm

[surfingsimon]

well, i just used mp3search.ru and have to say im well impressed. i only used it cause i couldnt find the wanted mp3 anywhere else (not even itunes, napster etc.).

quality is perfect, download was fast, and hey - im helping finance the mafia!

[househunter]

Oh this just appeared on bbc online today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4328269.stm
Seems that companies will have an uphill struggle to take this site down.
In a nutshell, allofmp3.com is legal!

[fluKe]

[s]househunter wrote on 11:55, 8th Mar 2005:
Oh this just appeared on bbc online today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4328269.stm
Seems that companies will have an uphill struggle to take this site down.
In a nutshell, allofmp3.com is legal!


Yes, but if you read carefully you'll see that it's not that it's legal it's that the current laws don't cover digital media.

Also note that these major recording labels have said if the russians won't do anything about it then they will take the matter further. Trust me, give it a year and the russians will have made ammendments to cover digital media and they will go after AOMP3 with a sharp knife.

Not to mention that it doesn't matter if it's legal in Russia if your downloading from the UK. Copyright laws here (and in the US) will cover your activities as you are infringing copyrights by obtaining the material illegally.


Besides at some point the music industry will win against this site and they will have records of everyone who downloaded songs from them illegally. Not just IPs either. But names and addresses from card details.

Just remember kids, downloading from websites leaves a long trail. Use BitTorrent....

[househunter]

http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3faq.htm this faq says that it is legal to download from this site if you are in America. Trust me allofmp3.com isnt going down any time soon. Also money from sales on the site goes to a third party which distributes the money to the songwriters, the record companies don't recieve a penny. This is the reason why they are up in arms about it, we've cut out the middle man.

[surfingsimon]

Not to mention that it doesn't matter if it's legal in Russia if your downloading from the UK.

you missunderstand the law. if its legal in Russia it therefore means that it is legal everywhere because you are buying a Russian service and hence it must only be legal in Russia. it seems to me that its 100% legal.

Besides they (record companies) couldn’t come within a legal mile of you even if in future they prove it is illegal and that you were downloading - it was not proven illegal at the time and hence at the time you downloaded you did no wrong.

its like murdering your aunt, before they said you couldnt it was perfectly legal. and if you go to afghanistan where it is still legal and do it and then come back to the UK they cant arrest you.

[fluKe]

Actually that's not quite true.

Say for example it's legal in counrty X to have a website distributing child pornography, that does not make it legal for you to download it in the UK because the service is provided in country X where it is legal

Also if you went abroad and murdered your aunt it is most likely you would be arrested as you would have commited a crime against a british citizen and you yourself are one.


Anyway I think my first example is a clear enough one...

[househunter]

[s]fluKe wrote on 01:57, 9th Mar 2005:

Say for example it's legal in counrty X to have a website distributing child pornography, that does not make it legal for you to download it in the UK because the service is provided in country X where it is legal


Downloading an mp3 isn't illegal. If I went to russia and bought a music CD (which is apperently 3$ US on average for an album) and then brought it back to the UK, I haven't broke the law as I have paid the royalties through purchase in Russia.

Allofmp3.com makes it clear that it does pay royalties to a third party which then distributes to the artists and not the record companies, which is what happens in Russia.

But If your happy paying close to a pound for a 4 meg file which is protected from further copying and is in the format of the companies choice, not yours, and can usually only be played on iTunes or windows media player 9 then please be my guest and download from napster or iTunes.

BTW uploading mp3s to allofmp3.com is illegal but downloading isnt.

[Elron]

hmmm...ppl still pay for music? How quaint and old fashioned

[surfingsimon]

[s]fluKe wrote on 01:57, 9th Mar 2005:
Actually that's not quite true.


er... yes it is.

using your paedophilia example, you are partaking of paedo IN THE UK, it doesn’t matter were you get it from its still illegal IN THE UK!

the difference is that with these Russian MP3s they are LEGAL in Russia and therefore downloading them in the UK just means you are downloading a LEGAL product, they aren’t pirated at all, nowhere, not ever, that’s the whole point.

as for killing my aunt, i never said she was a UK citizen!!

[Zombie Sheep]

Someone wrote:

"Also if you went abroad and murdered your aunt it is most likely you would be arrested as you would have commited a crime against a british citizen and you yourself are one."

I'm sorry, but what a load of crap. I mean, what the hell are you talking about? Would you like to explain how this is the case?