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Postby mossop on Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:19 am

[s]exnihilo wrote on 20:57, 21st Mar 2004:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, everyone ought to read "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" by Lynn Truss.


Ah yes, "Eats, Shoots & Leaves", the book that tries to teach English punctuation, while making a mistake on the front cover... It says "The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation". My point? Zero Tolerance should be hyphenated.

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Postby exnihilo on Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:57 am

Hyphenation is very much a grey area. There is no problem with Zero Tolerance, keep it as two words or in a few years time your unnecessary prosthetic hyphen will be whipped away and Zero-tolerance will be left, poor bugger, limping along as zerotolerance. That hyphen is very much a matter of opinion, personally I think they are two clearly distinct words and the hyphen is entirely unwanted.

And Rex, what I find annoying is when people use 'one' in the first person rather than the second. Merely using 'one' does not make one look intillegent, one has to use it correctly.
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Postby Manic23 on Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:48 pm

[s]Unregisted User Science Student wrote on 21:18, 21st Mar 2004:

I mean I realise you might know who Amac is and thus may know that he is a science student. However if you dont know who he/she is
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we do, and he's a science student, so get down of your high horse- it was intended as a joke
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Postby Campbell on Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:50 pm

[s]amac wrote on 00:32, 22nd Mar 2004:

That's true. Your thread was let off lightly actually. Just think of the guy who started this thread:
http://www.thesinner.net/messageboard-v ... hread=8522
11 pages and only one of the replies is relevant (if that). Doesn't stop it from being an entertaining thread though.


oh fuck off

we didn't stop anyone from posting a relevant reply on that other thread, it wasn't on a much used board, and it was the deserved destruction of a complete and utter pillock - agnus dei - who was arsing up far more threads than the one it took for me and my brothers in arms to shoot him down in flames

this is a discussion board, if it goes off - topic it doesn't exactly stop someone from talking about the original point if they want
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Postby amac on Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:25 pm

[s]Campbell wrote on 12:50, 22nd Mar 2004:oh fuck off

we didn't stop anyone from posting a relevant reply on that other thread, it wasn't on a much used board, and it was the deserved destruction of a complete and utter pillock - agnus dei - who was arsing up far more threads than the one it took for me and my brothers in arms to shoot him down in flames

this is a discussion board, if it goes off - topic it doesn't exactly stop someone from talking about the original point if they want


I never said anything about that being wrong. My point was that it happens, and Maisha should stop complaining. I even said it was an entertaining thread. I totally agree with you that Agnus Dei was a prat and I congratulate you for flaming him.

As for my first post, I was typing it quite quickly so I wasn't checking for minor grammatical errors.

And don't tell me to fuck off. I know where you live... ;)
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Postby garage red on Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:36 pm

And Rex, what I find annoying is when people use 'one' in the first person rather than the second. Merely using 'one' does not make one look intillegent, one has to use it correctly.
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I was always under the impression that "one" should be used in the third person, eg "He/One should do his/one's best"
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Postby exnihilo on Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:58 pm

That's not third person.

1st I should do my best.
2nd You should do your best.
3rd He should do his best.

2nd One should do one's best.

It's referring to people, you, in the abstract as opposed to another person, him, in the specific and is analogous to the polite you of many European languages.
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Postby Blanche on Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:28 pm

Hi.

I hesitate to be picky on a thread like this but just to clarify:

'One' refers to people in general, and not to either the speaker or the listener, and therefore is in the third person, but is a special case. 'One' is analogous to 'on' in French, and 'Mann' in German, not to the polite second person 'vous' or 'Sie'.
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Postby garage red on Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:13 pm

[s]Blanche wrote on 17:28, 22nd Mar 2004:
Hi.

I hesitate to be picky on a thread like this but just to clarify:

'One' refers to people in general, and not to either the speaker or the listener, and therefore is in the third person, but is a special case. 'One' is analogous to 'on' in French, and 'Mann' in German, not to the polite second person 'vous' or 'Sie'.


Thank you! I made my point on the basis of having studied Latin for 6 years - very grammatical!
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Postby mossop on Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:20 pm

[s]Blanche wrote on 17:28, 22nd Mar 2004:
Hi.

I hesitate to be picky on a thread like this but just to clarify:

'One' refers to people in general, and not to either the speaker or the listener, and therefore is in the third person, but is a special case. 'One' is analogous to 'on' in French, and 'Mann' in German, not to the polite second person 'vous' or 'Sie'.


I too hesitate to be picky on a thread like this, but just to clarify:

It's 'man' in German, not 'Mann'

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Postby Wong on Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:48 pm

Are you sure about that? "Mann" looks fine to me.

Edit: Actually you're right, "Man kann Moral und Ethik nicht mit Technologie regulieren", for example... (don't worry, not trying to start a debate, it was the first example I saw).

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Postby ragweek on Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:02 pm

[s]Wong wrote on 23:00, 21st Mar 2004:
http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~ragweek/events.htm


What is your problem?

The webpage you reffer to is a copy of the offical RW04 flyers. The flyer was made in order to convey as much information as possible about the events in a limited amount of space as we were on a very tight budget.

$!*%$£&!£*$^!!!*£&$***£($%&**"£&

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Postby Joesta on Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:52 am

[s]mossop wrote on 11:19, 22nd Mar 2004:
[s]exnihilo wrote on 20:57, 21st Mar 2004:[i]
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, everyone ought to read "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" by Lynn Truss.


Ah yes, "Eats, Shoots & Leaves", the book that tries to teach English punctuation, while making a mistake on the front cover... It says "The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation". My point? Zero Tolerance should be hyphenated.

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Postby mossop on Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:26 am

[s]Wong wrote on 22:48, 22nd Mar 2004:
Are you sure about that? "Mann" looks fine to me.

Edit: Actually you're right, "Man kann Moral und Ethik nicht mit Technologie regulieren", for example... (don't worry, not trying to start a debate, it was the first example I saw).


I haven't been studying German for the last 11 years for nothing ;)
'Mann' is the noun equivalent to the English 'man'. 'man' means 'one'

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Postby Blanche on Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:17 pm

I stand corrected.

Danke.
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Postby science student on Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:55 pm

I'm terribly sorry to bring this thread up again - there appears to be a large anti-this-thread feeling pervading the messageboards, however I would like to know the results of the scholarly discussion that was initiated on here - was my usage of the word 'one' correct in the context it appeared in?
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