people to the 'right of hitler' on the poll...

[KateBush]

are WANKERS and should be EXPELLED from this university. That is all.

[C.]

Heh!
I saw the thread title from the main page which doesn't display the author... and I just *knew* it had to be started by KateBush

[Wong]

I'm SURE that they were being FACETIOUS.

[hr]No tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves

[C.]

Thread Hijack!!

This THREAD is now about CAPITALISING.

[md25]

I think they were going for the traditionally uncomedic comedy option myself. However, if they were that far right, so what? It's a free country, after all, unless you think people should only be allowed to think in a "correct" manner.

[Mr Comedy]

I think that all socialists are a waste of space, as they have no concept of how ordinary society works or any idea of the fiscal implications of the ludicrous suggestions that they propose.
But I don't suggest that they are thrown out of the University.

And people to the right of Hitler is actually large swathes of the British population.
If you look at http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politic ... lysis2.php you will see that Hitler is not as far right as you thought.
If the poll said "people to the right of Gengis Kahn", then your statement would bear more weight.
However, by looking at the politics that Hitler imposed, we can see that if anything, he is more of a centralist politician on the left-right divide than a left-minded politician.

I would point out further that the Conservative party is therefore to the right of Hitler, and arguably New Labour is as well.

For these reasons, your statement holds no rationale at all.
Unless you want to remove most people from this university, you ethnic cleanser you.

[KateBush]

[s]Wong wrote on 13:57, 29th Nov 2004:
I'm SURE that they were being FACETIOUS.

[hr]No tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves


Hmmm....let's be facetious about a guy who killed over 6 million Jewish people. How amusing and clever we are. Golly gosh. ho ho ho.

[Mr Comedy]

But you were talking about their political views, not whether or not they want to gas jews. The point still stands that a lot of people are to the right of Hitler.

[KateBush]

hmmmm....people to the right of hitler aren't likely to be anti semitic at ALL, are they?

[Rectalprobe]

[s]KateBush wrote on 13:44, 29th Nov 2004:
are WANKERS and should be EXPELLED from this university. That is all.


Why should they be? you put the poll up with that option, were you not expecting people to press it - grow the fuck up!!!!

they probably did it for a laugh to see what reaction theyd get!!!!!

If you think they should be expelled for doing that option then you should be for putting it in the poll!!!!

Munchkin

[hr]
"Well i heard my sis say that whenever she had a prick in her hand she puts it in cider"

[Haunted]

[s]KateBush wrote on 15:10, 29th Nov 2004:
hmmmm....people to the right of hitler aren't likely to be anti semitic at ALL, are they?



Just what the Jesus has 'being to the political right of Hitler' got to do with being anti semitic???

[Rex Mundi]

[s]KateBush wrote on 13:44, 29th Nov 2004:
are WANKERS and should be EXPELLED from this university. That is all.



By that logic you should be expelled for victimising minority groups. And stop giving "WANKERS" a bad name.

[Zombie Sheep]

Mr. Comedy, I don't think bringing the political compass is necessarily a good idea, given I think the original poll probably wasn't giving consideration to the way its set up, rather they were most probably thinking of a traditional straight line.

[hr]"The feudal system of land tenure, that is to say the entire system whereby land is held by a bassal on perpetual tenure from a superior is, on the appointed day, abolished. Scotland, 28th November 2004.

[Cain]

[s]Zombie Sheep wrote on 17:45, 29th Nov 2004:
Mr. Comedy, I don't think bringing the political compass is necessarily a good idea, given I think the original poll probably wasn't giving consideration to the way its set up, rather they were most probably thinking of a traditional straight line.


and where would a national SOCIALIST be on this line?

[hr]
It's not who you know, it's who who you know knows

[David Bean]

Yes, but that makes no sense. What's right wing, anyway? Authoritarianism? In that case Stalin was to the right of Hitler, socially and economically. Libertarianism? Then I am, because Hitler believed in central planning and wage controls. Anti-semitism? Not on any other conception; you can hardly argue that the Tories are more anti-semitic than the Labour Party. Nationalism? Possibly he's as right-wing as you can get there, but that's hardly the first thing I think of when I hear the expression 'right wing'. Body count? That doesn't even make sense.

There are plenty of ways of being quite legitmately to the right of Hitler on many issues, and who are we to judge what was in the mind of those who voted that way?

[hr]"Fiat justicia ruat coelum (let justice be done though the heavens may fall)" - Judge James Horton (family motto)

[Guest]

Thatcher was far further to the right of Hitler on how economies should (not) be controlled, and similarly so on the size of governments and the state. Obviously, Hitler developed into a far more authoritarian leader- but that is not synonymous with the Right. Stalin was just as authoritarian but could not really be called right wing.

On the expulsion suggestion, I'm not sure just what would be left of the University if all that held abhorrent political views were expelled! Of course, if in demonstrating or expressing these views laws like the Race Relations Acts are broken, then I'd agree with your idea. Otherwise, I'd say it's down to us to engage with them in debate and argument and make our impact in that way.

Also, why an option for Scotland's sixth largest party, but not the fifth?

[Guest]

Kate bush's comment has only added to the contempt i have for her narrow minded views and stupidity.

If she did not want people to vote this option then why did she put it on her stupid poll.

And no matter how extreme people are entitled to thier own views.

So i suggest that Kate should stop having an opinion and sit on a chair and nit cardys for the righteous members of society that hold a likewise one sided liberal view of this perfect world we live in

[Guest]

Hitler was a (national) socialist, so it's not difficult to be to the right of him. I get so bored with people that seem to think that fascism was the exact opposite of communism and so must be the most 'right-wing' ideology there is.

As for ghengis.... i'm unaware of him showing any support for traditional 'right of center' policies so i'm not exactly sure why he is held up to be the most right wing of all....

One other thing, you may joke about expelling people from the university for holding the wrong views, but next time you walk past the PH in the cobbles take a moment to remember what happened last time an othodoxy at the university persecuted people who disagreed....

[Guest]

[s]KateBush wrote on 13:44, 29th Nov 2004:
are WANKERS and should be EXPELLED from this university. That is all.




has it ever occured to you they might be just joking around?

[the Empress]

[s]KateBush wrote on 14:33, 29th Nov 2004:
[s]Wong wrote on 13:57, 29th Nov 2004:[i]
I'm SURE that they were being FACETIOUS.

[hr]No tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves


Hmmm....let's be facetious about a guy who killed over 6 million Jewish people. How amusing and clever we are. Golly gosh. ho ho ho.
[/i]

He didn't just kill Jews. He also placed in concentration camps homosexuals, gypsies, those with disabilities. Although he killed a substantially higher proportion of Jews than those groups, he did murder significant portions of these and other communities. Is religous persecution more important than other types of social victimization?

After WWII the first documentaries made little or no mention of the Holocaust. Yes it was an atrocity, but the history and politics of WWII can be studied without central significance being given to the Holocaust.

Plus, it's human nature to find funny things in even the worst of situations. If you can't laugh at something, in some way, even satirically, how could people survive. We'd just become permanently grim/no hope.