National Anthem

[flarewearer]

Well, like it or not, she is our Queen, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

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[kas48]

[s]flarewearer wrote on 18:53, 3rd Mar 2005:[i]
Well, like it or not, she is our Queen, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.



you are certainly no Scot!

[exnihilo]

Because he/she disagrees with your particular small-minded, anti-English, parochial view of what it is to be Scottish? Well, if I have to think Burns is the epitome of culture, that despite all observable evidence Scotland is a world power or that the Parliament and the SNP are the greatest things since sliced bread then I'm no Scot either. I can assure you, however, that I very much am a Scot, and the Queen is the Queen of Scotland too.

[dd47]

[s]Gubbins wrote on 18:43, 29th Nov 2004:
Personally, I like Billy Connolly's idea of putting it to the words to the tune of the Archers... da da dee da da da da... it actually fits quite well.



I whole-heartedly agree.

If not that then definitely something in the same tempo thats fairly simple and catchy. Nothing too commercial though coz thats just wrong!

[exnihilo]

[s]Rob Milsom wrote on 12:13, 30th Nov 2004:
Would be good to have at least some Gaelic in the national anthem regardless.

Ought we not then to have some Scots, Lalands, Doric, etc, etc, etc in there too?

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[s]exnihilo wrote on 19:03, 3rd Mar 2005:
Because he/she disagrees with your particular small-minded, anti-English, parochial view of what it is to be Scottish?


I for one have absolutely no ill-feeling towards the English, it's just the Monarchy that I despise. And Bill Gates.

[Duggeh]

Tubular Bells should be the naitonal anthem. People would have to remain standing for nearly 50 minutes, and theres barely any words to have to remember.

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[EviLTwiN]

...and if I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad, caledonia's been everything I ever had.

but not really anthem material.

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[exnihilo]

[s]g wrote on 19:57, 3rd Mar 2005:
I for one have absolutely no ill-feeling towards the English, it's just the Monarchy that I despise. And Bill Gates.


Yeah, he's an utter bastard. Imagine giving more money to AIDS research and to the poorest people in the world than most national governments? The effrontery of it.

[Lindsay]

But the Scots Wha' Hae tune is integral to the song, being one of the oldest known Scottish military beats (It can be traced back to the Siege of Orleans in the 1420's and there is suggestion that it is even older).

As for Highland Cathedral... Great Tune, shame it wasn't written by a Scot (It was composed by a German!)

For a new UK Anthem, my vote's for "Both Sides the Tweed" by James Hogg

"Let the love of our land's sacred rights
To the love of our people succeed
Let friendship and honour unite
And flourish on both sides the Tweed."

[s]Rob Milsom wrote on 12:13, 30th Nov 2004:


Scots Wha' Hae has by far the most stirring limits, but the tune to which it's set is far too maudlin.

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[Nelson]

I remain fond of the nominal current anthem, Scots, Wha Hae, although it is a bit of a dirge. Some may object to Scottish Breakaway, but I quote like that one too (chorus):

Noo Scotland hasnae got a King
And she hasnae got a Queen
How can ye hae the Second Liz
When the First yin's never been

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[sejanus]

it may well have been mentioned on this thread, and if so, I apologise - but Rule, Britannia was written by a Scotsman, James Thomson (1700-1748). So not really an English song at all (even if it is an outdated expression of imperialism).

I know its probably far too maudlin, but my favourite Scots tune is Flowers of the Forest, and that'd be my vote for any Scots anthem.

That's probably why no-one would ever let me choose a national anthem, then.

[flarewearer]

[s]kas48 wrote on 18:57, 3rd Mar 2005:
[s]flarewearer wrote on 18:53, 3rd Mar 2005:[i]
Well, like it or not, she is our Queen, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.



you are certainly no Scot!
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I'm more scottish than you you Greek piece of shit. You invented Gayness.

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[s]Steveo wrote on 15:59, 29th Nov 2004:[i]
Don't allow Scotland to have one.

You have God Save The Queen like the rest of the UK.

Ha! I definately think Scotland should have it's own anthem if only to bug people like you. Scotland has it's own culture and history independant of England and should be allowed to express this culture in their own anthem.


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[exnihilo]

Do we not already? Each part of the UK has a national song, and we have God Save the Queen for the UK as a whole. Strikes me the obvious solution to this issue is for England to properly adopt a national song instead of hijacking GSTQ. Of course if the opposing team sings it and you sing something else it's going to appear alien to you.

[kas48]

I'm more scottish than you you Greek piece of shit. You invented Gayness.

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f**k you you lousy wanker. if there's anyone i dislike as a general rule more than the english or the turks, it's Scots who are English at heart. From Edinburgh, perchance?? (no offence to true Scots in Edinburgh)

[Devilzchild]

"Flower of Scotland" is not actually the official scottaish anthem - it's the adopted one. "Scots wahey" technically is the national anthem but not many peeps know that.

We should definately keep the national anthem(s) - I'm proud to be Scottish but nowadays I'm not so proud to be brittish!

[exnihilo]

[s]Devilzchild wrote on 13:38, 4th Mar 2005:
"Flower of Scotland" is not actually the official scottaish anthem - it's the adopted one. "Scots wahey" technically is the national anthem but not many peeps know that.

Technically GSTQ is the National Anthem, there's a Scots national song as well, but I think you'll find it's 'Scots Wha Hae' as in 'who have' and not 'wahey' as in 'yippee'. Telling.

As for kas48 up there, there's a very real difference between a parochial 'little Scotlander' and being a proud Scot who is also proud to be a citizen of the UK. And, for the record, I'm the latter, and I was born and raised in Glasgow. I'm not English by birth or at heart, and you reveal yourself ever more to be one of those deeply pathetic Scots who can only define themselves in terms of hatred for England - you disgust me.

[Odysseus]

[s]exnihilo wrote on 13:49, 4th Mar 2005:

As for kas48 up there, there's a very real difference between a parochial 'little Scotlander' and being a proud Scot who is also proud to be a citizen of the UK.


So anyone who doesn't want to be 'British' is a little Scotlander? What a pathetic, ill informed view to hold. We have a sense of identity combined with a sense of nation, how you can dismiss this as narrowmindedness is beyond me.

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