Exam Results!!

[loula]

anyone know what percentage a 14 is??

[Happy-Go-Lucky]

I'm going to be incredibly unuseful by not answering your question as I can't be arsed to go look it up in a hand book or anything. But I will take this opportunity to moan about the fact that my results aren't up yet. I've been checking numerous times a day for ages now, each time with my heart in my throat. I can't take much more. When will mine be out?!

[amac]

[s]loula wrote on 12:11, 2nd Feb 2005:
anyone know what percentage a 14 is??

I'd guess around 70%. I remember my Economics handbook had an equation for it, but I haven't seen one anywhere else.

[Eliot Wilson]

Well, on a 20-point scale, 14 is exactly 70%.

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[Insight]

Not according to the breakdown I saw posted up on a notice board:

17, 18, 19 = 70%, 80% & 90% respectively

5 - 16 = 50% (though the pass mark varies) - 69%; each point mark being only 1 or 2% higher than the previous.

By that reckoning, I would make a 14 to be 65%/66%

[mb667584]

Yup, in sciences anyway (including econ), to get your percentage:

Grades 1-5: multiply your grade by 8 (so a 5=40%, 4=32% etc, not that it matters much)

Grades 6-16: going up from 40%, each increase in your mark by 2.5% corresponds to an increase in your grade by 1 (so a 7 is 45%, a 9 is 50%, a 15 is 65%)

Grades 17-20: the formula says take 10 a way from your grade, then multiply that number by 10 to get the % (so a 17=70%, a 18.2 = 82%, a 19.8 = 98%)

The grading system is a bit odd to say the least, especially as they dont explain that although your grade is a number and the max is 20, the grade you get is not "12 marks out of 20" etc.

Also, the correlation of % to grade differs between some subjects, eg a 20 is not always 100%, eg when its something subjective such as an essay, where a marker is more likely to say "the standard of that work is more than enough to comfprtably gain a 1st" and give it an 18.5 for example, rather than tally up marks for it.

The uni should probably explain to its students how their grading system works, rather than lettign them find out for theirselves. Or just change it to something that makes more sense.

[Bread Roll]

[s]mb667584 wrote on 18:10, 2nd Feb 2005:




The uni should probably explain to its students how their grading system works, rather than lettign them find out for theirselves. Or just change it to something that makes more sense.


Like a 1-20 scale that meant exactly that. Or even good old percentage marks. I liked it when we had the completely random scale (like SOML marking scale and maybe History used it too) that you couldn't get lower than a 20 on even if you wrote the exam in upside down back to front hiroglyphics.

[floatingonmycloud]

I was told by one of my course organisers that a 5 was 50-51% and a 4 was 40-49%. I just assumed that was right, is it?! I'm confused now.

[munchingfoo]

Every year is different and most courses are different. The grade does not mach to ANY set down in stone percentage.

The only information you need is that 11.5 is 2.2
13.5 is 2.1
16.5 is first.

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[Marco Biagi]

[s]Eliot Wilson wrote on 12:27, 2nd Feb 2005:
Well, on a 20-point scale, 14 is exactly 70%.


Only if it's ordinal and not cardinal. Or maybe the other way around. And whichever way it is isn't the one that makes it 70%. This is why taking a mean is mathematically insane. I do not understand this, but the Maths professors on TLA said this to me two and a half years ago, so I believe them.

And to anyone confused, different departments have (very) different ways of mapping exam percentages on to the 20-point scale. As foo says, all that matters is that, approximately:

11.5-13.5 = 2:2
13.5-16.5 = 2:1
16.5+ = 1

OK?

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[n01]

All that aside, I've always wondered what these "1st"'s and "2:1"'s mean.

Obviously 1st is the best, but how often is it achieved? How much better is it than a 2:1? Or how much better than a 2:2? Whats an average mark? Maybe its a bit abstract, and I'm sure it changes with subject, but in general would anyone care to comment? Thanks.

This grading system is still bizarre to me...

[legohead]

I thought that a 17 was the lowest for a first. 16.5 is great- means I might be in with the slimest of chances. Im not holding my breath though.

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[md25]

There's all kinds of nonsense with median grades too (unless they've scrapped that, wouldn't be the first time!), which means that a few buggered up modules won't afflict your final grade. Basically if your credit-weighted mean is greater than or equal to 16.5 you get a first, 13.5 gets you an upper second, and below that I don't know because employers are rather ambivalent about Desmond 2:2s and below.

I tried writing a program to give me my credit-weighted mean once, apparently I'm getting a -121.327th. Awesome.

[Paranoid]

Apparently if you end up with a grade between 16.0 and 16.5 they'll still consider you for a first as well ) Not that I have any chance seeing as I'm lying on a 15.2 with 4 exams left.


What subjects have got their results back? I'm management and still have no word...

[md25]

http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~md25/Class.xls

Goddamn I'm sad. Anyone figures out how to get credit-weighted medians working tell me. Anyone spot any mistakes and I'm sure you'll not only tell me but call me a moron too.

[Scully]

Apparently-Although senior honour exams are not supposed to be worth more, if your borderline come crunch time on degree decision, they look at your grades. If you've done better in senior honours it stands in your favour!

[md25]

The reporting deadline is tomorrow at 1pm, the results are apparently available on Saturday.

[theflirt]

So do they take all your grades from first year into account to decide whether u r a 1st or 2:1 etc??

[Bread Roll]

[s]theflirt wrote on 19:23, 3rd Feb 2005:
So do they take all your grades from first year into account to decide whether u r a 1st or 2:1 etc??



I hope not. I don't think they do, just honours marks are weighted I think.

[firewire]

[s]theflirt wrote on 19:23, 3rd Feb 2005:
So do they take all your grades from first year into account to decide whether u r a 1st or 2:1 etc??



No its just junior and senior honours they take into account. In 1st and second year you just have to make sure you get good enough marks to progress. Well, in economics anyway.