Yes, We are being screwed again.

[Zombie Sheep]

A two tier pension plan that would only allow graduates to draw a state pension aged 70 or over, whilst lower paid workers could draw it from 65 or over. Apparently this makes sense because we live 5 years longer. However, it just seems like another way of screwing us over. I can't tell you how much I am looking forward to paying my graduate endowment next week.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4570151.stm

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[tintin]

Yeah, well, the people who make these policies are totally safe with their fat government salaries and pension plans, so yah boo sucks to the rest of us! If you can't beat them, join them!

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[harmless loony]

Oh well that's just decided my career for me....politician it is then....I can talk crap and do sod all like my current MP...surely that makes me perfect for the job?

[Marco Biagi]

Quoting tintin from 17:09, 22nd May 2005
Yeah, well, the people who make these policies are totally safe with their fat government salaries and pension plans,

Yes, and those salaries are only estimated to be one-sixth of a corresponding job at the inevitably bloated and bloodsucking upper echelons of private sector corporations. So how about we have a shareholder revolution before a popular one?

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Some people are left-wing because they love humanity.
I'm left-wing because I hate them.
No apologies.

[LonelyPilgrim]

I dont' know about how much your politicians are paid, but in the US, junior Congressmen don't make enough money to even live in Washington, DC.

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[harmless loony]

They are paid £59,000 per year plus expenses and incentives (ie: first class travel, cheap food in the commons etc, tax off a house or something like that, a 2nd house in london if they don't hail from a london based constituency). They also now get 80 days holiday a year.

[the reason for the word w]

Quoting harmless loony from 17:22, 22nd May 2005
They are paid £59,000 per year plus expenses and incentives (ie: first class travel, cheap food in the commons etc, tax off a house or something like that, a 2nd house in london if they don't hail from a london based constituency). They also now get 80 days holiday a year.

I'm not British, can I still be a politician in this country? I'm not sure they get that much in Germany. But then again I want to move to a stateless island and live in a lighthouse - are there stateless islands? Maybe in the antarctic?

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Der Welt und allem Lärm entflohn,
Hat sich in deinen dunklen Augen
Erbaut einen heimlichen Königsthron.

[Stuart]

I believe the current MP for Birmingham Edgbaston is German.

[Humphrey]

[b]are there stateless islands? Maybe in the antarctic?

Nah, the whole of the antarctic has been claimed as far as I know.

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[househunter]

Quoting Humphrey from 17:55, 22nd May 2005

[b]are there stateless islands? Maybe in the antarctic?

Nah, the whole of the antarctic has been claimed as far as I know.

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I think an international law was passed a few years back denouncing any claim any country had on Antartic territory. Of course most countries will not recognise this law. But if a group of people are the sole occupents of one of these islands or territories in the Antartic for a certain amount of time then the UN will recognise you.

[ARTooD2]

All Terretorial claims in antarctica are in abeyance under a treaty ratified in 1959...apparently...

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MP's get circa £59k pa
an £18k pa travelling allowance (which they have to prove to claim)
a £20k allowance pa for getting a house in london if their constituency is outside London.

They also get £59k to spend on offices and staff, though some MP's employ their wives (this is very uncommon now)

They also get big fat pensions rights, i think 18 years in the house will get you an £80k pa pension. That is equivalent to a pension pot of £1.6m circa.

[the reason for the word w]

Quoting ARTooD2 from 20:49, 22nd May 2005
All Terretorial claims in antarctica are in abeyance under a treaty ratified in 1959...apparently...

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'What did you say, my boy? It's all over? That's what you said... but it isn't at all. It's far from being all over...'

Hm, so I might just get lucky. Maybe I could start a war, fight for my right of a lighthouse in the antarctic - cosy!

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Mein Heimweh und meine Liebe,
Der Welt und allem Lärm entflohn,
Hat sich in deinen dunklen Augen
Erbaut einen heimlichen Königsthron.

[quarterstaff]

Quoting Zombie Sheep from 16:44, 22nd May 2005
A two tier pension plan that would only allow graduates to draw a state pension aged 70 or over, whilst lower paid workers could draw it from 65 or over. Apparently this makes sense because we live 5 years longer. However, it just seems like another way of screwing us over. I can't tell you how much I am looking forward to paying my graduate endowment next week.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4570151.stm

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i think this is disgusting... the graduates are the ones who have worked hard at school to get into uni... they should not be penalised but rewarded!


sure not all people get rich by hard work, and not all people get poor by being lazy or simply less able but this policy would seemingly make a virtue of NOT having been smart enough to go to uni!

life expectancy be damned! DO NOT PENALISE THE SMARTEST AND BEST! we should reward success, encourage it!

this would only further push the less well off away from university - not only do they get crippling debt, but also have 5 years less pension!

its sheer and utter lunacy

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god damned mongolians!

[tintin]

its sheer and utter lunacy

We are under a Labour government here - this is the party that's supposed to stand up for the common man. Sad, really, that they penalise those very people.

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[Ga]

Ah, I think this is a case of the baby boomers, having decided that they want to keep all the benefits, pensions, grants etc. they have had in life. Deciding, instead of making the largest voter base actually take responsibility for their actions, to shaft their children, who are outnumbered and rightly disillusioned with the voting system.

Yep. This is the wolfs deciding that the sheep is for dinner.


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